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Taxing Cory Booker's Patience

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News, Politics

4.587.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2026

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Senator Cory Booker stops by the studio to talk to Lovett about his bold tax proposal that would see the majority of Americans pay no federal income tax. Jon and the senator debate what it means when both political parties become anti-tax and discuss Trump's war with Iran, AIPAC's role in the Democratic Party, and the president's sudden firing of Attorney General Pam Bondi. You can check out Senator Booker's new book, "Stand," wherever you shop for books.

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There's a new book that I think is particularly timely. It's called Control. Why Big Giving Fall Short?

0:05.4

Author Glenn Gallich offers a rare insider view exposing why billionaires and millionaire donors move so slowly while communities battle urgent crises.

0:13.4

In Control, why Big Giving falls short. Gallich reveals how our philanthropic system and culture encourage excessive donor control and keep over $2 trillion from reaching communities. By prioritizing wealthy donor interests, power and control,

0:25.8

the system doesn't simply slow social progress. It structurally prevents it. This is a really

0:30.2

interesting deep dive into the world of big philanthropy, which I think we think it's a sort of

0:34.3

unadulterated good, but actually these billionaire donors, they have their

0:37.9

own motives, they have their own reasons for doing things, they can distort the way philanthropic

0:43.1

giving works, they can distort public policy, they can control the capital allocation and decision

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making. So it's really interesting and worth better understanding how this kind of extreme

0:52.3

wealth helps shape our society and then also how we can

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fix it. It's a great book to read. Order your copy of Control Why Big Giving Fall Short by

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Glenn Gallage from your favorite indie bookstore. That's Control Why Big Giving Fall Short

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Out Now. If you guys like Positive America, please consider subscribing to our Friends of the pod program. So Friends of the Pod get lots of stuff. You get more Pod Save of America. That includes our new show, which is called Pod Save America Only Friends. It's where Dan gets naked. Where Dan gets full frontal nudity, but mostly it's a biweekly subscription-exclusive podcast. It is basically Pod Save America, but behind a paywall. so it's a little bit looser and more fun. And it's Love It and Favre and Me and Fifer and then other crooked hosts, we go deeper on the news and cover more stories. You also get Open Taps, which is a weekly behind-the-scenes newsletter from the show. Plus, you get ad-free episodes of your favorite crooked podcasts and all kinds of other stuff. Dan will come to your house and clean it once every quarter. Yeah, clothes. Dan is very busy, clothes only. But along

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consider going to crooked.com slash friends and becoming a friend of the pod. Hey, everybody, welcome to Pod Save America. I'm John Lovett. I just wrapped a conversation with Senator

2:30.2

Cory Booker. We talked for about an hour. They only gave us 30, but I pushed it longer because

2:34.4

we were actually getting into some really interesting stuff. We talked about the war in Iran. We talked

2:39.0

about APAC and support for Israel. We also spent a lot of time on his tax proposal, his big idea

2:46.5

to raise the standard deduction to $75,000, which would provide a lot of tax relief for middle-class

2:52.1

families, but it would also mean most Americans don't pay income tax and what it means to have

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