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It's John Gibbons for the on-field wrap and I'm doing related to be joined.

Effort Shatt about ticketing and everything that's going on air by Phil Dutton

who's headed ticketing and Liberal Football Club. So Phil, welcome to the Anfield R.

Morning, John.

How are you?

Very well.

Thanks very well.

I'd think better now because I've been to watch Liverpool recently

and I was at the first game.

And I mean just to start with that, that must give you immense joy Phil to be able to have,

you know, be able to work so hard to get some Liverpool fans back in the ground to watch the champions?

Yeah, it's been nine months, it's been nine very long months and obviously when your jobs to sell tickets

and get people into venues, it's difficult when you can't do that. So even 2,000 fans is is

amazing. It seems surreal when you got 54,000 seats and 52,000 are empty but just have 2,000 fans back in is a great start and hopefully we can continue and he said

yourself being to the Spurs match the atmosphere has actually been really good.

But it's actually been better than sometimes when we've got 54,000 fans in there, but it's everyone who's been to the game so far,

the Wolves match and the Spurs match. They've absolutely made a massive effort to try and

try and improve the atmosphere and you know encourage the teams to the UN they have

done in both games so it's been good. Obviously there's been challenges around it in terms of, you know, you're coming to come up with a whole new

process and obviously then having to teach it to the very people who we used to do it

absolutely nothing.

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