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It is us doing one of these audio trailer, little things that we'd like to do from time

to time to time with near Lackinson with John Gibbons.

Anna Wada to talk to you about interviewing Jordan Henderson which is

first and foremost a bit of a laugh to get the opportunity to do that but also

secondly John I thought it was interesting how you approached it to talk about

different figures who've led through moments of his life.

He is such a generous personality Jordan. I could see you were almost at times that the

Dom King line about sort of getting them to talk about themselves one of the toughest

things but he is very generous in his

praise of others he is yeah and I think you know that comes from a place of

of him genuinely believe in that you know there's been a few sliding doors moments in his career.

And he talks in the book about one lad in particular who we went to school with and them too were the best in school but you know it was a bit of talk of well the other

that's definitely going to make it and Jordan might was the sort of general thing and you know this this lad now plays

play semi-pro somewhere in the north east and obviously John Henderson and so you know it's one of those sorts of things really where I think he

points he feels that you know if it wasn't for you know certain moments of of luck or people backing him in

certain ways or people believing in him or in his dad's case you know sacrifice

and and everything else that he sort of wouldn't be where he is now so I

think he's I think he's overly harsh on himself generally it's mad that he wanted to

call the book with or without me to reflect their

Liverpool success. I'm glad he was talked out to that one because it's it's

started on a dowder for a kickoff but I think he's been

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