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The Bill Simmons Podcast

Tatum Theories, Finals Unicorns, NBA Draft Buzz, and Worst GM Jobs With Ryen Russillo

The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Ringer

Sports

4.529.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2022

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo as they discuss their NBA big board and who they have going in the top three (02:31). As people revisit Andre Iguodala winning the 2015 Finals MVP, Bill and Ryen debate if a losing player can win a Finals MVP (27:35). They also discuss Steph Curry’s nuclear shooting that lifted the Warriors to a Game 4 victory and if there is such a thing as a Finals unicorn (34:47). Next, they dive into Jayson Tatum’s Finals struggles (52:44). Is he really injured or is he simply showing his young age against an experienced veteran team? Draymond Green has been consistently bad in the Finals and Ryen presents a theory to why Green hasn’t been able to get it going (01:09:50). Lastly, they list which GM positions in the NBA are the worst and why (01:15:17). Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Ryen Russillo Producers: Steve Ceruti and Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey MMA fans, check out the ringer MMA show. That's where we run the Spotify lives that happened right before and after big UFC events like UFC 275 this weekend.

0:11.5

Areal, Hawani, Chuck Mennon, all, Pizza Carol were right on there in front of like 2000 people on Spotify live and then we ran the podcast right after on the ringer MMA show. Follow it right now in Spotify.

0:22.3

We're also brought to you by the ringer podcast network. We have been diving into TV lately there the prestige TV feed. I was on there this weekend with Joanna Robinson talking about the staircase and excellent HBO Max true crime show.

0:36.2

We talked about what we liked and we didn't like and why we think the staircase beat out all the other true crime shows in the spring summer and became kind of the dominant one.

0:44.8

You can also hear Barry, Sean Finis and Bill Hader breaking down episode eight that is already up by the time you hear this. We also have the watch with Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald.

0:54.5

We have the ringer reality feed which has been blown up with Bravo shows Rachel Lindsay's on there a lot now. And then of course bachelor party.

1:02.5

The longest and most successful bachelor podcast you live in. We have the bachelor red I think coming back first or second week in July. They released the bios.

1:12.2

Always an exciting day and Juliet was breaking that down with the Jody Walker. So those are all TV stuff and then on top of that.

1:21.8

The rewatchables which is being moved to Tuesday this week because I'm only now have to I'm going to have podcasts tonight and then Monday night after game five.

1:31.2

So the rewatchables will run on Tuesday night and you can take that to the bank. The blood bank. There's your hint for the episode.

1:39.3

Coming up on this one Ryan, Rocello Sunday as usual and we're going to be talking about what we've seen in the finals so far.

1:47.0

What we're expecting for the next three games and a whole bunch more first our friends from progen.

2:11.9

All right, we're taking this to this five 30 Sunday night Pacific time. Ryan Rocello is here. A little bit of a dead time before game five.

2:20.6

The NBA finals the US open is this week. Sports is about to get lit. Rocello NBA draft. Yeah, it's getting a little lit NBA draft.

2:31.4

Do you have your top three when when you're going to announce it? You're doing a special show. What's going on? What's your one two three? When do we find out?

2:38.6

Yeah, it doesn't stop over here. Put a lot of time into watching the guys. I kind of make myself watch it like I go, okay, pretend you hate the sky and watch it.

2:46.2

And they'll pretend you love the sky and then pretend, you know, whatever. I'd still leaning towards Paulo.

2:53.3

Just one possession. He set two screens off the ball. Came back out the ball. Waited. It didn't trouble. Waited for somebody else to release past. It went down.

2:59.4

Then came back out. Somebody drove away from the help and then he.

3:02.9

Dished it off to Mark Williams for a dunk. I'm like, he did five or six things in one possession. So as great as he is with the ball in his hands.

3:08.8

I think he's completely underrated with what he does and how he fits into a team that had multiple ball handlers.

3:13.1

So I still feel like I'm I'm leaning Paulo, but I understand. You know, it's it's it's tough one. Man, they're really good. I like all those guys.

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