Hello I'm Dorian Linsky and I'm Ian Dunne. We're here to tell you about a brand new podcast that we're making

with the producers of oh God what now and the bunker. It's called origin story and it's out every

Monday. Each week we're going to be exploring the hidden roots of some of the most used, abused, and

misunderstood ideas in politics.

From conspiracy theory to woke to centrism, we're going to look into the secret history of

these concepts and explain why it matters when people get them wrong.

The first edition is about McCarthyism and it's out right now. You can find it in your favorite podcast app. Just search origin story.

To wet your appetite here's a taster of episode one, McCarthyism.

Ian, why have we decided to not just talk about McCarthyism, but to start with McCarthyism? What is it about the way that word is being used?

I see it misused on right and left in roughly equal

capacity on pretty much a weekly basis. We're going to have some we're going to pick

some words for this series that it's like a daily hourly basis.

It's not quite that bad, but McCarthyism I'd say is probably misused on a weekly basis.

The most obvious examples right now, I mean I saw another, do you know Alex Jones that

yeah it took conspiracy theory in the US I mean his response to being called in front of the

January 6th committee was instantly to go there I mean he said it's a witch hunt which has lied about myself,

it's a criminal subpoena,

this is something that Joseph McCarthy did to a lot of people in America,

although he added the essential ending to that

and it turned out some of the people he was targeting are actually guilty.

Well done, you even got that one wrong Alex. Congratulations.

Yeah, because I see it, for example, I see it in members of the Lane Party who have been accused of anti-Semitism

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