Today's episode is something totally new, a live stream debate with carnivore biologist

Tyus Williams on who would win in a fight, a honey badger or a Tasmanian devil.

Obviously, we don't endorse animal fighting, but as an imaginative exercise, this is one of the best ways to learn more about these two animals and their amazing adaptations for combat.

After listening, if you have an opinion on who would win, we have a poll open on Twitter where you can vote.

It's on at Science with Tyas's Twitter

in a reply to the original live stream. I'll link it in the show description. And the live

stream is also a video podcast, which is a first time thing, so you guys can finally see what the

heck I look like, if you wish. Thank you, Eric and the Animals for Play Me In, and now without further ado, I bring you the debate.

So we are now live.

This is a special edition of Species Podcast.

If there are technical issues, please bear with us,

but Tyas and I have privately debated a lot of very important topics. And today we're going to be debating one of the most important, most controversial. one of the debates, really one of the things

that philosophers have conflicted about for millennia at this point. And that is who would win in a

fight? A honey badger or a Tasmanian devil. Now, I personally believe that a honey badger can

win this easily, but Tyas has the strong opinion, and as we'll soon see, wrong opinion, that the Tasmanian devil would come out victorious.

So, Tyas, I want you to do me a huge favor and do the impossible task of explaining to me why you think a Tasmanian devil would defeat a honey badger in one-on-one

combat. Sure. Okay. So thanks for having me. I'm super excited that we're finally doing this. This is

one of those questions, one of those childhood favorite questions that everybody has asked at some

point. Who would win in a fight? Incredible Hulk or Superman,

a tiger or a lion. We've all asked the question. We've all been curious. I think it's cool to

actually bring this to a platform. So Tasmanian Devil versus Honey Badger. We got to answer the question.

The Tasmanian Devil is the largest carnivious carnivorous marsupial in the world.

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