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This Jungian Life Podcast

Tarot, Divination & the Symbolic Life

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Jungian, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Psychology, Dreams, Jung, Relationships, Selfhelp, Society & Culture, Psychoanalysis

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2021

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Guest T. Susan Chang is a writer, podcaster, and teacher of tarot, the most commonly recognized modern form of divination. The archetypal symbols in the tarot’s 78 card deck offer gateways to meaning and mystery. Jung says symbols act as transformers—life energy is converted from a lower to higher form by the amplification that consciousness provides. Tarot divination is intended to break from the mundane and court the numinous. It asks that we set logic aside, surrender doubt, and step unafraid into the space between realms. As with dreams, whatever arises will tell us something we don’t know and can use. Jung said that the “redeeming symbol is a highway, a way upon which life can move forward without torment and compulsion.” By opening ourselves to the inexplicable, we set forth on that highway with the intent of discovering our unique pattern for personhood and purpose in the world. 

A Two-Card Tarot Reading

This week, in lieu of a dream interpretation, Susie agreed to do a two-card Tarot draw for all of us. The question we chose was dealing with uncertainty. The cards, visible on camera, were spread out face down, and she gently moved them around, picked up a few, and selected two. Turning them over revealed the Queen and Page of Wands, two court cards. As the Queen of Wands has an outgoing nature, she creates networks. This card indicated that we can seek support from others in a time of uncertainty. The youthful Page of Wands, at whom the Queen seemed to be gazing, has a quality of innocence and optimism as he looks outward. Altogether this draw indicates that we can choose our attitude toward uncertainty. The Queen of Wands suggests the possibility of connection with others, and the Page conveys a spirit of adventure. 

References

www.tsusanchang.com

Books

Tarot Deciphered

https://www.amazon.com/Tarot-Deciphered-Decoding-Esoteric-Symbolism/dp/0738764477/

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Have you ever wondered what your dreams mean? Join us in DreamSchool at thisyunginlife.com and find out.

0:09.4

Jung wrote, dreams are a little hidden door in the innermost and most secret recesses of the soul.

0:15.5

DreamSchool is a unique, self-paced online program you can start at any time that unlocks access to your inner

0:23.6

world. Our 12-month program provides the support, knowledge, and guidance you need to reach within,

0:31.1

decipher your personal dream code, and harness it to optimize your life. By enrolling, you'll join an affirming community of fellow travelers,

0:40.8

each pursuing a unique quest.

0:43.6

And it's fun.

0:45.0

Join us on an adventure to wholeness and healing through understanding your dreams.

0:50.1

Go to thisyongyeinLife.com and click on Dream School.

0:54.5

You'll be taken to our secure checkout.

0:57.0

Once you join, you'll get immediate access to our first three modules.

1:01.7

You can get started right away.

1:04.0

We look forward to seeing you there.

1:08.5

Welcome to this Jungian life.

1:10.9

Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marchiano, Deborah Stewart, and Joseph Lee,

1:16.4

invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation

1:19.9

that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.

1:26.1

I'm Lisa Marchiano, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee

1:31.2

and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia. I'm Deborah Stewart, a Jungian analyst on Cape Cod.

2:05.8

Good morning. Today, Lisa is not with us. She is on vacation. What we do have for you is our guest, Susie Chang. We're delighted to have her. She is very knowledgeable about taro, has written a number of books and has a new one coming up in the fall. It will all be in the show notes. Terro correspondences, 36 secrets,

2:14.3

tarot deciphered. She has a podcast called Fortune's Wheelhouse, and you can reach her if you

2:21.8

would like to have a private reading at www.w.tsusanchang.com. That'll be in the show notes as well.

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