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Life, Death & The Space Between with Dr. Amy Robbins

Tarot and Psychotherapy-Do they belong together?

Life, Death & The Space Between with Dr. Amy Robbins

Dr. Amy Robbins

Healing, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Mentalhealth, Wellness, Deathanxiety, Consciousness, Spirituality, Death, Education, Life

4.8 • 582 Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I sit down with Michelle Nolan—tarot therapist and intuitive guide—to explore how tarot can complement psychotherapy. We discuss using ancient archetypes for shadow work, navigating ethical dilemmas, and why therapists are turning to tools like tarot to help clients heal. Whether you’re curious about blending intuition with psychology or want fresh approaches for stuck clients, this conversation offers practical insights you won’t find in textbooks.


00:00 - Introduction: Tarot’s Role in Modern Therapy

02:40 - Michelle’s Journey as a Tarot Therapist

06:33 - Tarot 101: History, Structure & Archetypes

11:05 - Intuition vs. Prediction: How Tarot Works

15:46 - Case Study: Marriage Struggles & Self-Worth

21:48 - Ethical Boundaries: Tarot vs. Psychotherapy

27:24 - Free Will & Empowerment in Client Sessions

31:48 - The “Spiritual Knot” & Shadow Work

38:19 - Channeling the Soul: Tarot as a Meditative Tool

44:16 - Case Study Breakdown: Commitment to Happiness

46:00 - Tarot’s Collective Connection to the Divine

51:12 - How Therapists Can Collaborate with Tarot

54:00 - Closing: Resources & Michelle’s Work


Michelle Nolan

Email: m@mtnolan.com

Instagram: @miche11e.no1an


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Life, Death & the Space Between Dr. Amy Robbins

Exploring life, death, consciousness and what it all means. 

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0:00.0

One of the things that I've been really passionate about recently is considering how we can be more

0:05.6

integrative in our clinical practices using some of the more new age occult practices.

0:14.2

So things like astrology, numerology, and today, Tara.

0:20.2

Where is there, or is there even, a place for it in clinical therapy

0:24.6

practice? And today, my interview with Michelle Nolan addresses just that. Michelle is a gifted empath,

0:31.8

intuitive healer, and spiritual channel. She uses her the gift of taro and has developed a new approach called

0:39.7

tarot therapy, which is a psychospiritual session developed to help you understand your

0:46.3

soul path awareness, soul path alignment, and healing your energetic and psychospiritual blocks

0:51.9

and wounds. So this is a really interesting session because,

0:56.6

or session, of course, I call everything a session, a really interesting podcast because we overlay

1:02.2

from a psychological perspective, but also looking at tarot, where those two things come together

1:08.2

and where there is an opportunity to use taro in clinical work

1:12.3

to help people move, shift, and grow from places they might be stuck. So I hope you enjoy this

1:18.3

conversation as much as I enjoyed recording it. Here is my episode with Michelle Nolan.

1:24.0

We need at our table of awareness, the logician, but equally we need the intuitive, we need the mystic.

1:30.8

I almost died.

1:31.8

I was allowed to go to the very precipice of death, of life and death, and look over the edge.

1:37.9

And I was allowed to behold what was there and allowed to come back.

1:42.0

Most people aren't.

1:42.8

When we talk about being aligned with our self

1:44.9

or being aligned with our soul

1:46.4

or hearing our higher self,

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