Tariffs, Stagflation and the New AI-driven Economy
WSJ Opinion: Free Expression
Gerard Baker, Editor at Large, The Wall Street Journal
4.6 • 591 Ratings
🗓️ 13 August 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, this is Free Expression with Jerry Baker. |
| 0:09.1 | Hello and welcome to free expression from the opinion page of the Wall Street Journal. |
| 0:12.5 | I'm Jerry Baker, editor-at-large for the journal. |
| 0:15.0 | Thanks very much for listening. |
| 0:15.9 | If you're not already subscribing, please do subscribe at Apple, Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you do you're listening. |
| 0:20.9 | This week, we're going to take a look at what's happening with the US economy. |
| 0:25.3 | It's been a pretty interesting couple of weeks, statistically. |
| 0:29.0 | We've had, of course, the evidence from the Jobs Report a couple of weeks ago |
| 0:33.3 | that the rate of jobs growth slowed very significantly over the spring and early summer. |
| 0:38.5 | This, of course, led to an eruption from the White House and President Trump, |
| 0:42.3 | firing the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics that's responsible for producing those data |
| 0:46.7 | and appointing on an interim basis a Trump loyalist, I think it's fair to say, as someone to run that agency. |
| 0:53.6 | Nonetheless, whatever you think about the data, |
| 0:55.4 | and there are certainly some problems. These were very significant revisions, and we've seen a lot |
| 0:58.9 | of revisions in the data in the last couple of years. There does seem to be some evidence that |
| 1:02.2 | the US economy may be perhaps entering a rougher patch. We had negative growth in the first quarter. |
| 1:07.5 | We had reasonably solid GDP growth in the second quarter, but there's |
| 1:11.0 | been some evidence from consumer sentiment surveys, from some production surveys, and of course, |
| 1:15.9 | now from this jobs report that the economy may be slowing. Of course, the big question on everybody's |
| 1:19.1 | mind is, is this perhaps somehow related to Donald Trump's tariffs, which he imposed starting |
| 1:25.3 | earlier this year? We didn't, of course, get the massive Liberation |
| 1:29.0 | Day tariffs that he announced on April 2nd, but we of course have seen a very significant |
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