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🗓️ 4 November 2025
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On Wednesday, the Supreme Court will hear arguments in a major case about the administration’s use of tariffs.
President Trump has long touted the power of tariffs as a tool for trade negotiations and even for ending conflict.
But now the justices will hear about how that tool may be misused.
NPR's Scott Horsley and Danielle Kurtzleben discuss President Trump's tariff policy and its economic impact.
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| 0:00.0 | President Trump's tariff policy and his use of executive authority faces its most consequential test yet as it goes before the Supreme Court on Wednesday. |
| 0:09.0 | I think it's the most important subject discussed by the Supreme Court in a hundred years. |
| 0:15.2 | That was Trump this past weekend on CBS's 60 Minutes. |
| 0:18.7 | The president has been clear in his defense of his signature economic tool, tariffs. |
| 0:24.0 | And he has warned again and again that there will be dire economic consequences if this tool, |
| 0:29.8 | raising taxes on imports to extract concessions from other countries, is taken away from him. |
| 0:34.7 | I think our country would be immeasurably hurt. |
| 0:38.4 | I think our economy will go to hell. |
| 0:41.1 | Look, because of tariffs, we have the highest stock market we've ever had. |
| 0:45.0 | But at the same time, many business leaders have said that tariffs are shutting down economic opportunity. |
| 0:50.7 | Kentucky farmer Caleb Ragland farms 4,000 acres of soybeans, corn, and winter wheat, and he's also the president of the American Soybean Association. |
| 0:59.3 | The message that I have for President Trump and the administration is we need opportunities from the market, and tariffs and trade wars, they take away opportunity. |
| 1:11.6 | Whether tariffs are helping or hurting the economy is not the direct question before the court. |
| 1:16.6 | Instead, it is whether Trump exceeded his authority to place tariffs on foreign goods without congressional approval. |
| 1:23.6 | Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar from Minnesota spoke last week on the Senate floor, calling for bipartisan |
| 1:30.2 | legislation to overturn Trump's emergency tariffs. |
| 1:33.3 | Finally, enough is enough. |
| 1:34.6 | We're asserting our power, and you're not going to be able to just put on a 40% tariff |
| 1:39.4 | on Brazil with a country with which we have a trade surplus simply because the guys |
| 1:47.3 | being facing a trial there that the president doesn't like. |
| 1:51.2 | No, this is not how this work. |
| 1:52.8 | It's not how it works under the Constitution. |
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