Tariff Rulings, Trump’s Pardons

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5 • 772 Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

This week, Mike and Justin welcome conservative attorney Sam Dewey to the podcast. They start with a discussion of the big rulings this week on President Trump’s tariffs. Sam says the real issue is Congress giving too much tariff power to the president. Justin sees a troubling pattern of executive overreach. Mike highlights the irony that conservative legal doctrines may now limit Trump’s power. Next, they turn to the latest bunch of clemency actions from President Trump. Sam defends the pardons as a response to “weaponized” prosecutions. Justin argues the beneficiaries are mostly Trump’s allies, not everyday people. Mike notes Trump’s deeply personal approach to justice. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Mike’s Substack: What Fresh Hell is This? Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. The Politics Guys is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Atheists, agnostics, long-haired widows, short-haired widows, vandal, hooligans.
0:05.1	I love the government, hug the government, hug the government, love, the government, hug the government.
0:12.0	Welcome to the politics, guys, a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.
0:18.7	I'm Northern Kentucky University Political Scientist, Michael
0:21.4	Barronowski. I'm joined today by University of Northern Iowa political scientist Justin Holmes,
0:26.6	as well as a new conservative voice on the show, Attorney Sam Dewey. Justin and Sam,
0:33.8	great to be here with you today. Good morning. Great to be here.
0:38.6	Great to be here.
0:41.8	So, Sam, you're the new guy here in the booth, as it were.
0:47.6	And so I thought before we got going, you could let listeners know a little bit about you just to give folks a sense that, you know, you're just not some random guy.
0:52.0	I picked off the street and said, hey, I need a
0:54.1	conservative. How about you, dude? So Sam, why don't you tell folks a little bit about yourself?
0:59.4	Yeah, sure. Great. So I'm one of the many lawyers in D.C., but I'm also one of the lawyers
1:04.1	who came to D.C. because I like the D.C. practice. I like the intersection of law and politics
1:10.3	because you get so many different
1:12.6	legal issues, be it Senate procedural issue, be it bizarre intersection of tariff regulations
1:22.3	with congressional authority, be it chocolate content labeling and chocolate purity. It's just you get
1:30.9	everything. And you also get every subject matter from pressurized wood to chocolate purity to,
1:39.2	you know, what constitutes bourbon, to figuring out how different banking instruments work and
1:46.0	intersect on a policy level. So I've always liked that. Subject matter changes, specifics of the
1:51.8	law change, although the general framework is kind of the same for a DC lawyer. And I've had a lot of
1:57.6	experience. I've served in the administration. I've been a staffer over in the Senate, and I've been a staffer over in the Hill, and I've had a couple of stints at private practice as well. So I like to say I've seen these issues from a lot of different perspectives. And I'm really excited to be here because it's always fun.
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