Target practice: Why NHS fixes haven’t worked

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🗓️ 26 April 2023

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

The NHS reels from crisis to crisis, with a waiting list of seven million and chronic workforce shortages. Why is it so hard to change a service that clearly isn’t working? David Haslam, a former GP who has chaired NICE and the BMA and is the author of Side Effects, tells Ros Taylor that a focus on hospital treatment means that public health and end-of-life care are shamefully neglected. “It’s almost as if we’ve designed the health service based on the interests of specialists.’ “If you stay with the same GP over many years you have fewer hospital admissions, reduced out of hours care and a lower rate of early death. If that was a drug, we’d have invested in it massively.” “I find it completely extraordinary that hospices are generally funded as charities. We’d be up in arms if our maternity units were only funded by charity shops.” Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Ros Taylor. Producer and audio editor: Jade Bailey. Producer: Kasia Tomasiewicz. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Instagram | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:55.3	look after theirs with dental life. Pick up dental life in the pet food aisle. Hello and welcome to the bunker I'm Ros Taylor. The NHS is in such a perilous state that one in eight Britons are now paying for private health care and you can see why they do.
1:18.0	Seven million of us are on an NHS waiting list and every time doctors and nurses go on strike that list
1:24.4	unfortunately gets longer. But with the NHS in a constant state of crisis it's
1:28.8	hard to get a perspective on where things have gone wrong and what we could actually do to make the NHS better.
1:35.6	David Haslam has thought deeply about that.
1:38.1	He's a former GP.
1:39.6	He's also chaired Nice, the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence and the British Medical Association, as well as the Royal College of GPs.
1:48.0	David, welcome to the bunker.
1:50.0	Really good to be with you.
1:51.0	We talk about the NHS all the time at the moment,
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