I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of

the most valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present.

Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right

now.

So welcome to Super Soul Sunday with Tara Westover. This is a first as we're taping as we sail

through this gorgeous Caribbean on the O'Magazine Holland America cruise getaway.

For girls getaway. I like that right? We're in the ship's world stage theater and so

welcome everybody. Been out on the beach today. Thanks for joining us. Oh my pleasure. You're

really happy to be here. I'm really happy to be doing it. You know for me this book

educated is liberating for so many people and I use the word liberation because I think

no matter what is going on in somebody's life now, you know, people call me and say I'm

going through this. I'm going to get educated. They go, well, I go just get the book educated.

It'll help you just get educated because I know that one of the reason why people are

responding to it is in a big way is because you showed so much of your own courage, so

much of your own vulnerability and strength to find your voice and to find a way out.

For me, the book is really I said to my producers is like in three parts. It's like living

in the shadow of life and on that mountain, then coming out of the shadows and then being

able to reject the shadow and the darkness of the past in order to embrace the light.

That's how I see it. It's an interesting way to put it. I think I would put it differently

but with the same kind of general thrust, I guess. I think for me, I think it was a little

bit about rejecting the past but it was also about trying to find the parts of the past

that were important to me that I wanted to hold on to and the good memories that I wanted

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