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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

Tara Palmeri on Epstein and His Survivors

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.83.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

This week, Larry is joined by investigative journalist, author, and podcast host Tara Palmeri to sift through the complexities of the Epstein files and his survivors—just days after several of his accusers traveled to Capitol Hill to demand accountability (1:26). They explore the confusion surrounding the case, the role of money, and how Epstein seemed untouchable in a scandal rooted in power and class (8:05). They also consider what the files may actually contain (15:22) and the effect on survivors who must watch as their accused abusers are publicly celebrated. Host: Larry WilmoreGuest: Tara PalmeriProducers: Devon Renaldo and Brandy LaPlante Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone.

0:01.0

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0:02.8

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0:13.0

All right, welcome back, everybody.

0:23.1

Such a great pleasure of having this person number four,

0:25.6

and she's coming in again to talk about this important issue that's going out there.

0:31.5

And there's so many layers to this thing that it defies just simple explanations. And it's one of the reasons

0:39.3

why I wanted her own. She's got her own show on YouTube. You've seen her reporting all over

0:43.6

the place and the red letter is a great substack out there read Tara Palmary. Welcome back to

0:48.9

Black on the Air. It's so great to see you again. Thanks for having me, Larry. It's a pleasure.

0:53.6

I'm so happy to be back. Yeah. And it's so nice to have you here. You're one of the people I feel you're really plugged into this whole Epstein issue and what's going on. I have so many questions. I'm so confused on a lot of it. And I was hoping I can have you on to just kind of help us kind of weed through some of this and figure out like, what exactly are we watching?

1:14.9

Like, what is going on here?

1:17.2

And I know you have your perspective on this.

1:19.5

I know it's very layered, you know, you have both personally and professionally, I'm sure.

1:25.0

You know, and first I want to ask you, what was the purpose of the event with the survivors that happened in D.C.? Was it Friday or was it Thursday? When did that happen? It was on actually, I think, Wednesday. Oh, it was on Wednesday. Yeah, I know, I know. These days, these weeks they... I can't keep track of time. I know, is is a is elusive now so it was on wednesday and the

1:47.5

purpose of it was to rally behind this bill that thomas massey has put forward and it would basically be

1:54.8

forcing republicans to vote to release all the epstein files from the doJ to compel the DOJ to release the files.

2:03.6

And, you know, this is a, it's a big vote because President Trump has simultaneously had

2:10.1

his legislative affairs team himself calling around to members saying, if you vote for Massey's bill, it is considered a hostile

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