Tara Isabella Burton on the Creation and Curation of the Modern Self
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🗓️ 19 May 2023
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Many modern movements and philosophies have invited humans to look for answers to fundamental human questions not outside of themselves—as many traditional religious forms and classical and pre-modern philosophical traditions did—but inside of themselves. This is an impulse to seek contentment through self-realization, to judge a person's inner attitudes by the extent to which they are authentic to who they truly are. That means that personal thoughts and feelings now govern behavior more than external standards or external channels of ambition. Modern people do not want the self to melt away into something greater, or holier; modern people are self-made.
Self-Made is the title of a forthcoming book from Tara Isabella Burton, the author of Strange Rites and an occasional Mosaic contributor. Strange Rites was about the way old spiritual drives have endowed new and unorthodox practices—like eating organic food or exercising at a fancy gym—with spiritual significance. Self-Made tells the story of how so many people came to believe in the importance of creating their own bespoke personalities, in "branding ourselves," in self-definition, in fashioning desires into purposes. It's an important book, and Burton is one the most theologically attuned social critics writing today. Here, she joins Mosaic editor Jonathan Silver to talk about it. Their conversation ranges through many time periods and the philosophical and literary authors who have influenced her thought on these matters. In other words, it's a bit more abstract that most conversations on this podcast.
Musical selections in this podcast are drawn from the Quintet for Clarinet and Strings, op. 31a, composed by Paul Ben-Haim and performed by the ARC Ensemble.
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| 0:00.0 | What is our purpose? What are we here for? What should we do if we're aiming to live the best, most fitting life? These are, needless to say, fundamental human questions, questions that sit at the cornerstone of philosophy and religious |
| 0:22.3 | life, and questions that are taken up by the best works of poetry and literature. The mere asking |
| 0:28.7 | of questions like these is itself an exercise of a uniquely human capacity. Well, here's one way |
| 0:35.5 | we could begin to investigate the question of human purpose. |
| 0:39.1 | There are many great traditions that believe that the answer to human purpose lies outside |
| 0:44.8 | of the self. In fact, most traditional religious forms and classical and pre-modern philosophical |
| 0:52.2 | traditions tend to see in the great tableau of existence, |
| 0:56.3 | of being, of creation, they tend to see mankind as small, not at the center, but a part of nature |
| 1:02.6 | or the created order. That's not to say that we're unimportant, but it is to say that what is good |
| 1:08.0 | for us is to be found by calibrating ourselves to the good of the world. |
| 1:13.1 | I know that sounds a little abstract, but let me illustrate what I mean through the Christian |
| 1:17.5 | example of vocation. The word vocation comes from the Latin word that means to summon, and |
| 1:24.1 | many Christians believe that if a person can suppress their desire, can govern their |
| 1:29.0 | passions, can quiet the chaos and sin inside of them, then they'll be able to hear, often |
| 1:35.6 | through prayer, a call from God, from outside of ourselves, a call that summons us to |
| 1:41.2 | some vocation or another, to dedicate our life to marriage and family, |
| 1:45.3 | or the clergy, or a particular profession. Now, the Jewish tradition too establishes an encompassing |
| 1:51.2 | world of covenantal obligations whose many laws and ordinances discipline the self. We answer our |
| 1:58.4 | highest purposes, not alone, but in transmitting a moral order and a |
| 2:03.2 | national history from our ancestors to our children, helping them to know the creator of the universe |
| 2:08.7 | and what he demands of us. This is a world in which the individual is present, for it is as an |
| 2:14.8 | individual that every person is created in the image and likeness of God, |
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