Tanya Luhrmann - How Culture Influences Voice Hearing
Mad in America: Rethinking Mental Health
Mad in America
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🗓️ 13 November 2020
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Tanya Luhrmann is a Watkins University Professor in the Anthropology Department at Stanford. Her work explores how cultural contexts shape the experience of mental distress, particularly voice-hearing and the symptoms associated with psychosis. She also turns the lens on the practice of Western psychiatry itself, investigating how the field represents the mind and how these representations influence our collective understanding of reality.
Luhrmann's book When God Talks Back was New York Times' Notable Book of the Year, and she has written numerous articles on psychosis, medical anthropology, and spiritual experiences. Recently, Our Most Troubling Madness: Schizophrenia and Culture was published by the University of California Press. Her newest book, How God Becomes Real: Kindling the Presence of Invisible Others, was published by Princeton in 2020.
Luhrmann describes herself as someone who is interested in different types of "realnesses." Given that she grew up surrounded by different worldviews, it is not surprising that her work reflects this diversity of interests. It spreads across academic fields and geographical terrain – from anthropology to psychiatry on one side and Chicago to Chennai on the other. Throughout these writings, she has challenged many assertions of mainstream psychiatry, often to the annoyance of leading figures in the field.
In this interview, she talks about the damaging effects of a diagnostic identity and the often-unseen challenges that peer counselors can face. She also takes on big questions: What does it mean when a person with high scores on psychosis scales is functional in one culture but not in another? Are auditory hallucinations shaped by cultural experiences? Are they always a source of distress?
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Mad in America podcast, your source for science, psychiatry, and social justice. |
| 0:14.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to the Mad in America podcast. This is your host for today, Ayyrdi Dhar. |
| 0:20.0 | I am assistant professor of psychology at Mount Mary University and a science |
| 0:24.6 | news writer at Mad in America. |
| 0:26.6 | Our guest for today is Dr. Danya Lerman, who is a Watkins University professor in the |
| 0:31.6 | Anthropology Department at Stanford. |
| 0:33.6 | Dr. Lerman is known for her work on psychosis, religion, psychiatry, and a lot more. |
| 0:39.9 | She has written and edited numerous books. For example, today we will talk about our most |
| 0:45.5 | troubling madness, which is an anthropological analysis of psychosis across cultures, and of two |
| 0:52.7 | minds, which addresses the fractures and difficulties in American |
| 0:55.8 | psychiatry, especially in the training of young psychiatrists. Her work and she herself have received |
| 1:02.0 | numerous awards. Welcome to Mad in America, Dr. Lerman. So your work crosses both disciplinary |
| 1:09.9 | and geographical boundaries. |
| 1:12.1 | Could you tell us what you found about the relationship between psychiatric diagnosis |
| 1:17.0 | and social identity in the US and how this relationship is different in other places like |
| 1:22.9 | India? |
| 1:24.3 | People who I came to know in the United States, and mostly this was in California and in Chicago, |
| 1:31.5 | are often exceptionally aware of the nature of diagnosis, of the terms. |
| 1:38.3 | I mean, somebody, I remember giving this kind of young woman sort of a psychosis skits. |
| 1:45.0 | I had all these questions that I was asking to see if in my interview she would display or, you know, |
| 1:55.0 | assent to the questions that would designate her as somebody who met criteria for schizophrenia. |
| 2:02.6 | And at one point she said, oh, I meet all these criteria. |
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