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The Look & Sound of Leadership

Taming the Defensiveness Dragon

The Look & Sound of Leadership

Essential Communications - Tom Henschel

Education, Executive Coaching, Self-improvement, Executive Presence, Careers, Business, Management

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 6 July 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

At the end of her rope, a leader asks her coach for help managing a direct report who, she says, is the most defensive person she’s ever met. This episode was packed with tools. We’ve put them into an easy-to-understand infographic. Download it for free here. Kim Scott, the best-selling author of the electric book Radical Candor, wrote a short, friendly guide with tools for handling defensive employees. Find it here. Harvard Business Review’s Amy Gallo talked with Dave Stachowiak ...

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the Look and Sound of Leadership, an ongoing series of executive coaching tips

0:08.2

designed to help you be perceived in the workplace the way you want to be perceived.

0:13.6

I'm Tom Henshel, your executive coach, and today we're talking about

0:17.4

Taming the Defensiveness Dragon.

0:22.8

Jackie was a highly analytical introvert.

0:26.6

I learned early in our coaching.

0:28.6

She used silence to think.

0:32.2

It's not to say she didn't speak up.

0:34.2

When she felt strongly about something, the words flew out of her.

0:37.4

From our very first conversation, I knew Jackie felt strongly

0:41.4

about a direct report of her's named Tate.

0:44.4

Tate was, according to Jackie, the most defensive person she had ever met.

0:49.7

Not every minute of every day, not even every day.

0:52.8

But when she would attempt to give him feedback, his hackles would go up.

0:56.1

He'd interrupt her and say things like, I do have my MBA, you know,

1:00.0

or I don't know why I even try.

1:04.1

I asked Jackie if she thought Tate's defensiveness might be triggered by her gender or her race.

1:10.1

She didn't think so.

1:11.4

She told me he displayed the same defensive behaviors in meetings with department heads and chief officers.

1:17.5

Recently, during a coaching conversation, she said to me,

1:20.2

that's why I'd like to help him.

1:22.3

I know he's ambitious, but if he keeps it up,

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