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Tamara Keith and Jasmine Wright on Trump's feud with Pope Leo

PBS News Hour - Segments

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2026

⏱️ 9 minutes

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NPR's Tamara Keith and Jasmine Wright of NOTUS join Amna Nawaz to discuss the latest political news, including Congressman Swalwell's resignation, the race for California governor, the feud between President Trump and Pope Leo, Trump losing some support from religious Americans and how high gas prices could impact the midterms. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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0:00.0

Let's delve further now into the day's political headlines, Congressman Swalwell's resignation, the feud between the President and the Pope, and of course, the war in Iran. For that, we turn to our Politics Monday duo. That's Tamara Keith of NPR and Jasmine Wright, White House correspondent for notice. Amy Walter is away. It's great to see the both. Good to be here. Let's pick up where Lisa left off there. And Tam, I'll start with you. Your reaction to the news of Eric Swalwell's resignation under growing

0:25.2

pressure from his own fellow Democrats, what it means for the California governor's race, too.

0:29.7

What do you make of it? Well, in terms of the California governor's race, that race had been

0:34.0

sort of stuck. It's a huge field of Democrats, two major Republican names,

0:39.3

and it just hadn't really moved much at all.

0:43.3

And then in the past week, we got President Trump endorsing Steve Hilton,

0:47.3

one of the Republican candidates,

0:49.3

and then Eric Swalwell dropping out.

0:52.3

Swalwell had, in some some polls been the leading Democrat.

0:55.2

That really scrambles that race.

0:58.1

Some Democrats had been concerned that it's a top two primary.

1:02.5

Democrats and Republicans all compete against each other to find out who will go on to the general election.

1:07.7

There had been some concern among Democrats that two Republicans

1:11.9

would emerge from that primary. Now with Trump endorsing Hilton and with Swalwell dropping out,

1:18.8

there's more movement in this race than we've seen in a long time, and it seems likely

1:22.6

that it will end up being a Democrat and a Republican that makes it out.

1:26.2

Jazz, what do you make of how quickly this all moved with Eric Swalwell and also the pressure he was under from his own fellow Democrats? I mean, it showed that it had momentum. And I think to Lisa's point, it showed that he at least believed that there could have been a vote to expel him, something that, again, is a high bar and doesn't often happen. I will say that if you take a

1:44.9

step back, Democrats for the last eight months have really been focused on this idea of

1:50.1

accountability. We've seen them push forward on the Epstein files, wanting to see more people

1:54.4

brought in in front of the House, oversight committee, wanting to see more people be deposed,

1:59.7

wanting to see the Department of Justice do more, show more files.

2:04.7

That's really been a charging message of their own. And so it would have looked pretty hypocritical if for their own party, they didn't say, hey, you have these really horrid and kind of tragic allegations against you.

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