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🗓️ 5 May 2025
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0:00.0 | President Trump has given multiple lengthy interviews in recent days, and they've sparked as many questions as they have answers. |
0:07.0 | Our Politics Monday team is here to separate the substance from the noise. |
0:11.0 | That's Amy Walter of the Cook Political Report with Amy Walter and Tamara Keith of NPR. |
0:16.0 | Great to see you both. |
0:17.0 | Good to be here. |
0:18.0 | So we've been talking about, I know you've been following, there's a common thread in the president's recent interviews. |
0:22.4 | That's a number of times he references his lawyers, right? |
0:25.7 | Tam, when he's asked about people who were deported or rescinding federal payments |
0:29.0 | or whether he's going to run for a third term, he says, I'm listening to my lawyers. |
0:33.2 | How much of this presidency relies on the interpretation of the lawyers around this president? |
0:39.4 | Yes. President Trump has long talked about his lawyers. |
0:44.1 | When he was out of office, when he's in office, he's all about a stable of lawyers. |
0:49.3 | The interesting thing about him is that he considers the lawyers of the Justice Department also to be his |
0:54.5 | lawyers, which is not actually the role of the Justice Department in a traditional administration. |
1:01.7 | He both wants arm's length and doesn't want arm's length depending on what he wants at any given |
1:07.2 | moment. But you have to remember that members of his administration, people who are around him now, |
1:13.0 | they aren't necessarily lawyers, but they spent the entire four years out of office thinking |
1:18.3 | about new and different ways to push the boundaries of executive power, to use the laws |
1:24.6 | that exist in novel ways to get what they wanted that they weren't able to do in the first administration. |
1:31.3 | And President Trump as someone who likes to be powerful and wants to try these things. |
1:37.3 | It is clear that his administration is trying many things that other presidents simply haven't tried, including former President Trump. |
1:46.4 | Amy, when you look at this issue of due process, upholding the Constitution, are these the kinds |
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