And for more on the latest in the presidential race, including a look ahead to tomorrow night's debate,

we're joined by our Politics Monday duo, that's Amy Walter of the Cook political report with Amy Walter and Tamra Keith of NPR.

Great to see you both as always.

Good to be here.

So tomorrow is the first and so far only debate

between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.

This is a potential campaign reset moment

as many voters tune in for the first time with what

56 days left to go until election day but who's counting? So Tam how are both sides preparing?

Well one thing that has stood out to me today for hearing

from both campaigns is that they are both talking up Donald Trump's ability to

debate. Both the Harris campaign and the Trump campaign say that he's hard to debate that he has a lot of experience the the Harris campaign is sort of talking down, they're not talking down her

ability but they're just tempering expectations because she's this person who

you know as a former prosecutor has had these standout debate moments.

She, you know, in various Senate hearings,

prosecuted the case asking tough questions.

And her campaign is trying to say,

temper those expectations.

Trump is this unique person who is difficult to debate,

who is unencumbered by facts, as she says.

And so watch out. You know, that's a little bit of working the refs, I think, from both of the campaigns.

And yeah, so working the refs.

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