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Tamara Keith and Amy Walter on Trump’s Epstein files reversal

PBS News Hour - Segments

PBS NewsHour

News, Daily News

4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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NPR’s Tamara Keith and Amy Walter of the Cook Political Report with Amy Walter join Amna Nawaz to discuss the latest political news, including President Trump’s U-turn on the release of the Epstein files and the White House beginning to acknowledge affordability concerns. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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0:00.0

It's gearing up to be a busy week on Capitol Hill after President Trump's U-turn on the Epstein files.

0:06.2

To discuss that and more, we turn now to our Politics Monday duo.

0:10.1

That is Amy Walter of the Cook Political Report with Amy Walter and Tamara Keith of NPR, who joins us tonight from Salt Lake City.

0:17.3

It's good to see you both.

0:18.5

So, Tam, I'm going to start with you because, as you heard Lisa report earlier, the House is expected now to vote on the release of those Epstein files.

0:25.7

Tomorrow you saw what the president posted online when he had his reversal, at least rhetorically,

0:31.0

on the release of those files. He said, House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein

0:35.6

files because we have nothing to hide.

0:37.8

It's time to move on from this Democratic hoax.

0:40.5

I don't care.

0:41.7

All I do care about is that Republicans get back on point.

0:44.9

So, Tam, what do we know about why that reversal?

0:49.7

Well, initially, he was sort of holding his hand up, trying to tell a moving freight train to slow down and stop.

0:58.8

Eventually, he realized that this was going to pass and it was going to get a lot of Republican votes,

1:04.5

and it would show a fissure between himself and members of his party in Congress, something he really doesn't want.

1:12.2

So he got out of the way.

1:20.7

And now instead of this being, you know, a vote that shows weakness, he can spin it as a vote that shows that the House is just going along with what he wants.

1:24.1

But clearly, for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks, he made it quite clear he didn't want this vote to happen.

1:32.1

Now he's even saying that he'd sign a bill if it gets to him.

1:35.5

Of course, it has to go through the Senate.

1:37.3

And his public posture may be different than his private posture there.

1:41.6

Amy, we saw him try to pressure some Republicans to not support this

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