For more analysis of the partial shutdown and other political news on this President's Day,

we turn now to our Politics Monday duo. That is Amy Walter of the Cook Political Report

with Amy Walter and Tamara Keith of NPR. It's great to see you both. And Tam, I'll start with you.

You heard Leader Jeffries there say their demands have been rejected by Republicans, that there's been staff to staff communications, no talks between the principles. How do you see this deadlock ending? So I spoke with a senior

White House official on Friday, and I just want to read a quote. This person says,

ultimately, there will have to be a compromise. Now, that doesn't sound like breaking news,

but that's different than the White House position was

in the last government shutdown where they were unwilling to negotiate and said Democrats just

have to reopen the government. So I think that the posture is slightly different. There is an

awareness that many in the public who may even support the president controlling the border

and other things are not happy with the images they are seeing of ICE and CPB and the Americans

who were killed in Minneapolis.

And so I think that there is a window here for something to happen.

But as your interview just points out, like, these are not intense negotiations happening

right now.

Amy, what's your take on this?

I mean, the demands Democrats are making here for ICE reforms are different than the

health care subsidy extensions they wanted in that last government shut down.

Are those seen differently

by the public?

Yeah. You know, I think for the first time in a long time, Democrats are coming into a conversation

about immigration on the front foot rather than the back foot. And it is Republicans who really

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