The warm, funny and generally brilliant socialite Tamara Ecclestone joins Jo and James in the podcupboard this week to escape the heat by talking about all the things that matter, and that really don’t.

They talk about Tamara’s range of children’s skin and haircare, Fifi & Friends, named after her daughter Sophia; longtime breast feeding and co-sleeping; the encouragement of other mums, and not minding being abused online for something she believes in. Plus, the joys of actually framing photographs rather than letting them languish on your phone, and how to cope with being on a “life conveyor belt”.

This week's episode was recorded on July 2. It was edited by Kat Brown, with music by Martin Austwick.

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