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The Addicted Mind Podcast

TAM+ EP 81 ANTs in Your Brain: The Secret to Breaking Free From Negative Thinking

The Addicted Mind Podcast

Duane Osterlind, LMFT

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Mental Health

4.8 β€’ 621 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 14 August 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Download: The ANT Catcher Worksheet


Have you ever felt like your mind was invaded by a constant stream of tiny, negative whispers? Like there's an army of ants crawling through your head, each one carrying a toxic message that you're not good enough, you can't handle it, or you're going to fail?

In this powerful episode of The Addicted Mind Plus, hosts Duane and Eric reveal the hidden enemy that might be sabotaging your recovery without you even knowing it. They introduce you to ANTs – Automatic Negative Thoughts – those lightning-fast, barely noticeable thoughts that create a vicious cycle of pain, triggers, and destructive behaviors.

Drawing from cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), one of the most research-backed therapeutic approaches available, the hosts break down the critical connection between your thoughts, feelings, and actions. They explain how changing just one corner of this triangle can transform your entire emotional experience.

But here's the game-changer: most of us try to change our behaviors through pure willpower, completely missing the thoughts that are actually driving the whole cycle. These automatic thoughts happen so fast they're almost subconscious, yet they have the power to hijack your entire day – and your recovery.

Duane and Eric don't just identify the problem; they give you practical tools to fight back. They introduce the concept of "metacognition" – thinking about your thinking – and show you how to become a scientist of your own mind. By learning to spot these mental ants, you create psychological distance from them and stop seeing them as the absolute truth.

The episode includes a 24-hour mission designed to help you become an "ant hunter," complete with specific steps for catching and labeling these thoughts without judgment. You'll learn why physically writing down these thoughts is so powerful and how this simple practice can be the foundation for lasting change.

Whether you're in recovery, supporting someone who is, or just tired of being controlled by negative self-talk, this episode offers hope and practical strategies. The hosts provide a free worksheet to help you track your progress and emphasize the importance of being gentle with yourself as you discover these hidden patterns.

This isn't about positive thinking or willpower – it's about awareness, understanding, and gradually taking back control of your mental landscape one thought at a time.


Key Topics

β€’ ANTs Explained: What automatic negative thoughts are and how they operate below conscious awareness 

β€’ The CBT Triangle: How thoughts, feelings, and behaviors are interconnected and influence each other 

β€’ Metacognition Techniques: Learning to observe your thoughts rather than being controlled by them 

β€’ The Ant Spotting Exercise: Practical 24-hour mission to catch and label negative thoughts 

β€’ Why Willpower Fails: Understanding why behavior change without addressing thoughts doesn't work 

β€’ Writing vs. Thinking: The power of physically recording your thoughts for lasting change 

β€’ Self-Compassion in Recovery: Being gentle with yourself while developing awareness


Key Timestamps

β€’ [00:01:00] - Introduction to the "mental infestation" concept and ANTs metaphor β€’ [00:03:00] - Real examples of how automatic negative thoughts trigger destructive behaviors β€’ [00:06:00] - Introduction to CBT and the thoughts-feelings-behaviors triangle β€’ [00:07:00] - Dr. Aaron Beck's research and the science behind automatic negative thoughts β€’ [00:09:00] - The concept of "defusion" - separating yourself from your thoughts β€’ [00:12:00] - The 24-hour ANT spotting mission explained step-by-step β€’ [00:14:00] - Practical tips for tracking thoughts and the importance of writing them down

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Addicted Mind Plus, the podcast where recovery, mental health, and wellness take the front seat.

0:07.3

I'm Dwayne Austerland, and joining me is my co-host, Eric Osterland, known for his insightful work on the Stuck Brain podcast.

0:14.3

In each episode, we'll dive into actionable, small steps to help those in recovery journey further along the path to wellness.

0:22.3

Our conversations are designed to be concise, typically around 15 minutes, though we may

0:26.9

occasionally delve deeper when the topic demands it. Our goal to provide you with practical

0:31.9

advice grounded in real experiences and expert insights to empower your recovery journey.

0:38.3

So whether you're on a break, on a walk, or just taking a moment for yourself,

0:42.3

join us as we explore the many facets of recovery and mental health,

0:46.4

one small step at a time.

0:48.4

This is The Addicted Mind Plus,

0:50.4

where your journey to wellness gets an extra boost.

0:53.1

So let's get started.

0:54.9

All right, everyone. Welcome back to the Addicted Mind Plus. I'm your host, Dwayne Austerland.

1:02.9

And I'm Eric Oshelan. Great to have you with us today. I'm excited about this episode.

1:08.3

Yeah, absolutely. So I've got a question to ask everybody today. Have you ever felt

1:14.2

like your mind was infested? Like there's a constant, silent, trail of ants crawling through your

1:24.4

head, maybe each one carrying a little tiny negative message.

1:30.8

Ask yourself, does that sound familiar to you?

1:34.9

That's a powerful way to put it.

1:37.8

It's not a big, loud, critical voice, but it's often a thousand persistent whispers that pop up so fast that you feel

1:47.7

like it's background noise.

1:50.0

Almost like a toxic static that tells you you're not good enough or you can't handle it or

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