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The Addicted Mind Podcast

TAM Ep 58: Beyond Values: How Meaning Making Creates Lasting Change

The Addicted Mind Podcast

Duane Osterlind, LMFT

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Mental Health

4.8 • 621 Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

What drives you forward when recovery gets tough? In this powerful follow-up to their episode on values, hosts Duane and Eric Osterlind dive into the concept of "meaning making" – the essential fuel that powers your journey toward your most important goals.

Have you ever achieved something you thought would make you happy, only to feel empty afterward? Or felt stuck in life despite doing everything "right"? This episode explores why so many people – even successful ones – struggle with feeling unfulfilled and disconnected from what truly matters to them.

Using the framework developed by Thomas Mara, the hosts break down how meaning isn't something external that happens to you – it's something you actively create. If values are your North Star showing you direction, meaning is the engine that moves your boat forward.

Duane and Eric explain how distorted meaning-making contributes to anxiety disorders, depression, addiction, and eating disorders – and how reconnecting with authentic meaning can transform recovery. They introduce the concept of "supreme concerns" – the things that matter most to you – and provide practical strategies for identifying them and building your daily life around them.

Whether you're struggling with addiction, mental health challenges, or simply feeling disconnected from purpose, this episode offers a roadmap for creating a more authentic, fulfilling life aligned with what truly matters to you. The hosts remind us that meaning-making isn't just a nice addition to recovery – it's essential for building resilience against life's challenges and creating genuine happiness.

Don't miss the downloadable worksheet mentioned in the show notes to help you identify your own supreme concerns and start creating more meaning in your life today

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Key Topics

• The relationship between values and meaning in recovery 

• Understanding meaning as a perspective rather than inherent in objects 

• How distorted meaning contributes to mental health disorders 

• The concept of "supreme concerns" as guideposts for meaningful living 

• Practical strategies for embedding meaning into everyday life 

• Overcoming obstacles to meaning making like fear and powerlessness 

• How alignment with meaning creates resilience and authentic relationships

Timestamp

[00:01:30] Eric's analogy: Values as North Star, meaning as the motor 

[00:03:00] Defining meaning and why it's personal to each individual 

[00:05:49] How anxiety and depression distort meaning 

[00:07:52] The challenge of misalignment even in successful people 

[00:09:13] Exploring the concept of "supreme concerns" 

[00:11:43] Overcoming obstacles to meaning making 

[00:14:00] How meaning making enhances recovery and relationships


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Addicted Mind Plus, the podcast where recovery, mental health, and wellness take the front seat.

0:07.3

I'm Dwayne Austerland, and joining me is my co-host, Eric Osterland, known for his insightful work on the Stuck Brain podcast.

0:14.3

In each episode, we'll dive into actionable, small steps to help those in recovery journey further along the path to wellness.

0:22.3

Our conversations are designed to be concise, typically around 15 minutes, though we may

0:27.0

occasionally delve deeper when the topic demands it. Our goal to provide you with practical

0:32.0

advice grounded in real experiences and expert insights to empower your recovery journey.

0:38.3

So whether you're on a break, on a walk, or just taking a moment for yourself,

0:42.3

join us as we explore the many facets of recovery and mental health, one small step at a time.

0:48.4

This is The Addicted Mind Plus, where your journey to wellness gets an extra boost.

0:53.2

So let's get started.

0:55.5

All right, Eric, you ready for another episode of the Addictor Mind Plus? I sure am. I'm excited about today's topic.

1:00.7

Yeah, we are going to go into meaning making. And what's important about this is that this episode

1:08.7

really comes on the heels of our last episode on values. And so if you haven't

1:15.5

listened to that episode, I would encourage you to go listen to that episode first, because I think

1:20.7

it'll make this episode even more powerful and will really help you understand why meaning and meaning making is so important.

1:30.5

Absolutely.

1:31.3

In the last episode, we talked about values.

1:34.4

And I like to give an analogy for both these episodes because they go together.

1:38.4

So values is like a north star when you're sailing.

1:41.8

And then meaning is the motor to get there. So values is

1:45.9

about alignment, meaning making is about the energy to get to that North Star or follow that

1:52.2

alignment. So that's why these two go together so well. So today we're going to uncover how

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