Talks on Love Playlist (4/5): A queer vision of love and marriage | Tiq Milan and Kim Katrin
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🗓️ 12 June 2026
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Love is a tool for revolutionary change and a path toward inclusivity and understanding for the LGBTQ+ community. Married activists Tiq and Kim Katrin have imagined their marriage -- as a transgender man and cis woman -- a model of possibility for people of every kind. With infectious joy, Tiq and Kim question our misconceptions about who they might be and offer a vision of an inclusive, challenging love that grows day by day.
This episode originally aired in 2016.
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| 0:00.0 | June is LGBTQ Pride Month for many around the world. It's a time to celebrate the fight for rights and the many forms love and relationships can take. In honor of this, today we're dropping five of our favorite TED Talks from the archive on love and relationships. Happy listening. |
| 0:20.8 | You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity |
| 0:25.3 | every day. |
| 0:26.3 | I'm your host, Elise Hugh. |
| 0:28.3 | What if love itself were a revolutionary act? |
| 0:31.9 | What if, when we strip away every assumption about how a person is supposed to exist in their |
| 0:36.8 | body, gender, or skin, |
| 0:39.1 | and truly make space for each other. |
| 0:41.4 | We don't just change our relationships, but change the world. |
| 0:44.8 | In this talk from 2016, activist Tick Milan and writer, educator, and actor Kim Katrine, |
| 0:51.8 | took to the TED stage as a married couple, a transgender man and a cisgender |
| 0:56.4 | queer woman with infectious joy and radical honesty. Together, they question our misconceptions about |
| 1:03.1 | who we are and offer a vision of an inclusive, challenging love that grows day by day, a model of |
| 1:08.9 | possibility for people of every kind. And while the two are no |
| 1:13.1 | longer together, this talk remains a beautiful testament to what love can look like when you |
| 1:18.0 | build it from scratch on your own terms. That's coming up right after a short break. |
| 1:32.5 | And now our TED Talk of the Day. |
| 1:37.4 | Our first conversation was on Facebook, and it was three days long. |
| 1:45.6 | We shared over 3,000 messages between us, and it was during those 72 hours that I knew she was going to be my wife. |
| 1:50.9 | We didn't rate any pre-weckerson amount of time for our courtship. We told each other the vulnerable truths up front. I am a transgender man, which means the F of my birth certificate should have stood for false instead of female. |
| 2:00.2 | Walking around as a woman in the world felt like walking with pebbles in my shoes. |
| 2:04.2 | You know, it took the rhythm out of my swagger. |
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