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Talking Without a License in D.C.

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4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2010

⏱️ 5 minutes

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Thursday, September 16th, 2010.

0:05.0

I'm Caleb Brown. In Washington, D.C. and other cities in the United States, it's illegal to talk without a license.

0:12.0

That is, if you're a tour guide in DC and you accept

0:15.1

money to give tours and describe buildings, doing so without an occupational license

0:20.8

could land you in jail for 90 days.

0:23.6

Rubber McNamara, staff attorney at the Institute for Justice hopes to get the law thrown out.

0:28.9

The Institute for Justice, on behalf of two D.C. Area Tour Guides, Tanya Edwards and Bill Maine,

0:34.0

filed a major First Amendment challenge to Washington DC's tour guide licensing scheme,

0:38.5

standing up for the basic principle that the First Amendment does not allow the government to be in the business of deciding who can and can't talk.

0:45.6

And I have particular interest in this because my dad's coming to visit me here in Washington, D.C. soon.

0:50.4

So I should try to, if I want to be civilly disobedient, have him pay me to show him and his

0:59.6

wife around town for a couple of bucks in order to flout the law.

1:05.0

If your dad gives you a $5 bill and you tell him this right here is the capital

1:10.5

building you can go to jail for 90 days. What is the capital building, you can go to jail for 90 days.

1:12.8

What is the rationale from the DC government?

1:17.0

Washington, D.C., like a lot of governments

1:19.0

throughout history, thinks things would be better

1:21.2

if it got to decide who got to say things about the city.

1:25.0

And that's exactly backwards.

1:26.5

In this country, we rely on people to decide who they want to listen to.

1:30.0

We don't rely on the government to decide who's going to be allowed to talk.

1:33.2

It's obviously this is a free speech issue but the

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