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You and Me Both with Hillary Clinton

Talking (with Fran Lebowitz)

You and Me Both with Hillary Clinton

iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture, Government

4.39K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

You’ve heard of listening tours, right? Hillary’s done plenty of those. These days, New York City writer, humorist, and cultural icon Fran Lebowitz is in the midst of a talking tour across the United States and abroad. Between destinations, she found time to stop by the studio and chat with Hillary.

Fran used to write. She’s the author of two best-selling essay collections, Metropolitan Life and Social Studies. But she likes talking better, and has gained a following for her sharp wit and her incisive, unapologetic opinions on just about everything.

In their wide-ranging and fast-moving conversation, Hillary and Fran discuss Fran’s early days scrounging for work, food, and heat in New York; the truth about “the American Dream”; how to survive long-distance air travel without a smartphone or cigarettes; why Martin Scorcese’s documentaries about Fran, Public Speaking and Pretend It’s a City, were not collaborations; and much more.

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0:00.0

I'm Hillary Clinton and this is you and me both.

0:05.0

I've said it here before that I'm a big admirer of people who get things done.

0:11.0

Well, my guest today is someone who proudly claims she doesn't like to work.

0:17.0

She thinks she's, you know, pretty lazy and she would have been a good aress.

0:22.0

Well, Fran Leverwitz is not an aress but she is an icon and an institution of New York City and American culture.

0:29.0

As you'll hear, she's whipsmart, funny and full of opinions.

0:38.0

Fran famously wrote for Andy Warhol's interview magazine and she is the author of two best-selling collections of essays

0:47.0

but hasn't written another book since the mid 1990s.

0:51.0

Instead, she can be found talking.

0:55.0

In documentaries, she's done two with Martin Scorsese and the latest from 2021 is called Pretend It's a City

1:04.0

or on late night television or in her speaking tour across the United States and around the world.

1:13.0

Few voices out there are as original and unapologetic as Fran Leverwitz's.

1:21.0

She's a truth teller and a real breath of fresh air.

1:24.0

I was so delighted to have this chance to sit down and talk with her.

1:30.0

I cannot tell you how pleased I am to talk with you today, Fran.

1:33.0

And I thank you.

1:35.0

I feel like I've got all of New York City, or at least Manhattan, right here in this booth with me.

1:41.0

And I want to talk to you about your speaking tour, your docu-series and of course New York City.

1:47.0

And I was just asking you, you're heading to Brooklyn for a live event. You've been to Brooklyn, right?

1:53.0

Oh yes, New Year's time.

1:54.0

I mean, my grandparents lived in Brooklyn.

1:56.0

So when I was young, that's where grandparents lived.

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