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Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to God is Gray, the podcast. Although I as a Christian believe that God resides in absolute truth, in black and white, we as people are stuck here on planet Earth contending with the gray. In church, gray areas often cause dissension, anger,

and even hate. But on this platform, I welcome open dialogue, variety of opinion, and differing belief systems. God is Gray is meant to teach, inform, and simply trade stories with kindness,

love, and mutual respect. If you have a story or perspective to share,

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our community, donate to patreon.com slash God is Grey. Now on to the episode. Hi, beautiful people.

Today I'm talking to my friend Estacia Christensen.

We are sitting in her bed in Bend, Oregon, on her wonderful farm and her house.

And she has three sister goats outside that are beautiful and amazing, a pen full of chickens and a house full of

house full of children humans humankind and i really wanted to interview estacia for a long time actually

because the last time we connected here in bend was like

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