Do you have a favorite? Not meant to, but mostly the unloved ones, the unvisited ones, the cases that get dusty and ignored.

All the broken and shunned creatures.

Someone's got to care for them.

Who shall it be if not us? Yes.

Yes. Welcome to Roon soup, a weekly podcast about magic, culture and the very best new and old ideas for living in this world, coming to you from

43 degrees south on a small farm in deepest Tasmania. My name is Gordon and I shall be your host.

This week as an unofficial Christmas special, Jose Laitau returns to the show in advance of the imminent

release of his latest book, Oppusgula Cypriani.

Jose joins us for a fascinating discussion on the books of

St Cyprian and that's my gift to you. Enjoy.

Jose welcome back. Thank you for having me back.

Well, absolutely, absolutely, and I think maybe we should begin with some of the adventures you've been having catch people up on what's been going on

since the last time you're on the show but what's been going on?

So since last one that was what like two years ago?

About that, about that, yes.

For Biblioteca Valencia, Valentiana, I believe.

Okay, so back then I believe I was probably starting my PhD, my second PhD in Quimbra.

And that's ongoing, so I'm still here, still grinding it out.

PhD in history, in the history of early modern Portuguese magic, everybody's dream job, I suppose.

Absolutely.

And you know, it's two years, it's actually not that much in academic terms. We should never forget. Saturn is the patron of

scholars. So everything just moved slowly. So during those two years there was lots of let's call it

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