Welcome to You're Wrong About, a show where sometimes we re-release an old episode with a new intro.

This intro is with Oscar nominee Jessica Chastain.

I am as surprised as you are.

We're going to talk about the eyes of Tammy Faye, a movie that I recommend highly, and also if you are now or have been a Diet Coke drinker, you should get some Diet Coke now.

Because when you're watching this movie, you will want a Diet Coke.

And this movie is based on the documentary by Fenton Bailey and Randy Barbato, whose name I hope I'm not bookuring.

This is so exciting for me because I felt in making this episode and I feel in the episodes that made the most of me that I'm trying to understand who a person really was either because they're no longer with us or because we're trying to access a moment in the past.

And often try to reclaim a story that the tabloids have found so sensational and lucrative because they present someone who the public can safely mock and feels they're able to hold it a distance and say, I could never be that and I could never do that.

And I think something powerful happens when I am able to look at someone's life and at the surprising things they did and to say, oh yeah, I see how I could do that.

I feel like I understand how this person got here and also I feel fondness for them.

I feel love for this person because the act of putting in that kind of work to understand what somebody was doing and maybe get some sense of what they were thinking.

If only from listening to them when they say, this is what I was thinking.

I think that that has to come from love in some respect.

I remember people really liking this episode when it came out and hearing a lot of feedback about it from people I think because this is Jim and Tammy Faye Baker and as we talk about in this episode Jessica Han are people who were impossible to not hear about and not hear March specifically in the late 80s and into the 90s.

Certainly in the period when I was growing up and these are events that happened before I was born but that we're still part of the iconography of American culture.

And so I think it does a lot for us to try and feel like we're back at the center of that and seeing how everybody ended up in the positions where we found them like at Pompeii.

I really loved this conversation with our new friend of the show Jessica Chastain actually passed friend of the show because she also heard this episode and apparently has sent it to a few people which I think is pretty cool.

I love to make things that people can send to make a point that they're trying to argue. I love to save time.

I love to this movie. It made me cry. If you listen to this show you know that most things make me cry but like it elicited a special type of crying.

And I should also say that I think we're living in mostly apocalyptic times but there are some exciting things happening and one of them is that there are more movies and TV shows about maligned women of the past few decades.

I really like that. This is one of the early episodes of the show. It happened in the first year that Michael Hobbs and I were making it and in retrospect I feel like this was one where I at least kind of figured out what I wanted to be doing.

And if you listen to this one and feel like more in this vein you can actually do a year of the Bimbo trilogy 1987 was Chris in the year of the Bimbo because of the actions of Jessica Han, Fawn Hall and Donna Rice, three women who happen to be standing next to men who are actively imploding.

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