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Angry Planet

Talking Russia with the CIA's Former Eurasian Bureau Chief

Angry Planet

Matthew Gault

War, Politics, Conflict, Government, History, News

4.3882 Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2022

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

We’ve talked a lot on this program about electronic intelligence—the amazing stuff you can do with satellites, user generated content and sophisticated software.

Nice.


But we’ve left out all the men and women who still do work on the ground, all over the world.


Paul Kolbe is here to remind us about human intelligence and the role it plays. Kolbe is a CIA veteran, having worked in the directorate of operations for 25 years before moving on to private industry. He’s currently director of the Intelligence project at the Belfer Center at Harvard.


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Welcome to Angry Planet.

0:34.0

Hello!

0:36.0

Hello and

0:37.0

and Hello and welcome'm Matthew Gault.

0:47.0

We've talked a lot on this program about electronic intelligence.

0:51.0

The amazing stuff you can do with satellites, user generated content, and sophisticated software.

0:57.0

Nice!

0:58.0

But we've left out all the men and women who still do work on the ground all over the world.

1:05.0

Paul Colby is here to remind us about human intelligence and the role it plays.

1:09.6

Colby is a CIA veteran, having worked in the Directorate of Operations for 25 years before moving on to private

1:16.7

industry.

1:17.7

He's currently Director of Intelligence Project at the Belfer Center at Hart. Thank you so much for joining us.

1:25.0

Great to be with you guys.

1:27.0

I'd like to eventually get to the impact of human intelligence in the war in Ukraine, but you've had some unique experiences and I was hoping we could start there.

1:37.0

Sure. Okay, so you were Chief Central Eurasia Division. What does that mean? What's the actual job?

1:46.0

So the time CAA was broken into a couple of different directorants. So you had a director of operations

1:51.0

which was focused on Human Intelligence Collection, the

1:54.2

Director of Analysis, which are the folks that put together all-source

1:57.7

intelligence to produce finished Intelligence assessment for National

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