Talking politics, talking science
Nature Podcast
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4.5 • 893 Ratings
🗓️ 30 October 2020
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Summary
Science and politics are not easy bedfellows - "Stick to the science" is a three part series which aims to find out why.
In the third and final episode we try to get to the bottom of how journalists, communicators and policymakers influence how science is perceived. We discuss the danger of politicization and ask the question - can science be part of the political narrative without compromising its values?
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This episode was produced by Nick Howe, with editing from Noah Baker and Benjamin Thompson. It featured: Deborah Blum, Bruce Lewenstein, Dan Sarewitz, Hannah Schmid-Petri, Shobita Parthasarathy, and Beth Simone Noveck.
Further Reading
Politicization of mask wearing
Comparing Norway and Sweden in their coronavirus combating actions
Beth Simone Noveck argues for more open and transparent governance
Solving Public Problems, by Beth Simone Noveck
The Received Wisdom Podcast, with Shobita Parthasarathy
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| 0:00.0 | On the first day of Christmas my true love said to me |
| 0:03.9 | Rip up the chariot |
| 0:05.6 | Forget about the telly |
| 0:07.6 | Let's play scratch cards |
| 0:11.1 | Coins out to scratching |
| 0:12.6 | Everybody laughing better not be cheating |
| 0:15.3 | And the chance to win a pound or three |
| 0:18.2 | Add some play to Christmas |
| 0:20.1 | With scratch cards from the National Lottery. Please gift |
| 0:23.1 | responsibly, rules and procedures apply. Players and gifters must be 18 or over. And the chance to win a pound or three. |
| 0:32.1 | In the past two episodes, I've explored a myriad of links between science and politics, and the fact of the matter |
| 0:39.3 | is that from individual scientists up to entire governments, politics shapes and moves research. |
| 0:46.5 | But it would be disingenuous to suggest that this doesn't cause problems, especially when you |
| 0:51.5 | throw in the media, special interest groups, hearsay, and gossip. |
| 0:56.2 | After all, anything can get twisted in the rumor mill. |
| 1:00.0 | So how should we talk about science? |
| 1:05.0 | Science likes to claim its value-free, but it's not. |
| 1:08.2 | Actually, good politics is more important than good science. |
| 1:11.6 | We screwed this up, right? We the director of the night science journalism program at MIT. |
| 1:38.3 | Science journalists act as one of the most direct links between researchers and the rest of society. |
| 1:43.9 | And after reporting on science |
| 1:45.5 | for over 30 years, Deborah is under no illusions that science and politics are separate. |
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