What is driving you guys now to pursue this dream over here in Europe alone?

Well, I mean, you come from Australia too and in Australia, New Zealand, it's always kind of, yeah, racing there, you always know there's part of you that that's not where the true racing is.

I mean, the true racing is in Europe, it's in Belgium. I mean, even as I was growing up, I even had ideas of America and things like that. It's always sort of this, I need to go somewhere else to do it. And that's where the biggest scene is. And I think that was the biggest motivation. I mean, it still is the biggest motivation. I mean, Europe is the center of it all really in terms of cycling world.

Yeah, I think it was kind of that, it's just that like unknown.

It's like this kind of like fantasy that you see on like TV and like you watch the tour growing up and everything and then you're like,

there's this world out there, this is Europe.

And then I think that's kind of what drove me to come over here.

And now, yeah, it's just like, I love the lifestyle.

Like, I love riding my bike every day

and kind of like going to these races and traveling.

I kind of forget sometimes that, yeah,

I'm only 19 and get to do all this travel

and it's, yeah, meet all these people

and kind of like go to all these places.

And I think that's the thing that really drives me is how fortunate we are kind of to be over here

and just doing what we've loved since a young age.

Well, we were just listening to the episode I recorded with a brother-sister combo all the way from Nielsen, New Zealand, Neve and Finn Fisher Black.

Super talent coming up through the Peloton.

In the next few years, you're going to hear their name. You've probably already heard their name because they are absolute freaks.

As most of the pro Peloton is turning into now,

these guys coming through are crazy. But what that episode really explains is how hard that

big jump is and how well these two youngsters have handled it. And I really love just tapping

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