To help everyone understand what exactly were you feeling in those times as someone who was clinically depressed or is clinically depressed

yeah because i think i get the feeling this year out of any year if anyone's going to understand

a little bit of what you go through on a day-to-day basis this year's been a tough year for

everyone i don't care what anyone says on any level, people have seen some dark spots.

Run us through a little bit of what you feel in these moments and then what the bike does

for you. Not the challenges per se, but what the bike has a drug does for you, releases.

So like I guess the jet, if I was to sort of, if I was to, I guess, you know, dot point them, like the sort of feelings I have, it's like, why am I doing what I'm doing? Like, you know, I don't really, I don't want to be social anymore. You know, the things I would normally enjoy catching up with mates going out for dinner,

I just, no, I don't want to do that anymore.

Like this, I just want to be alone.

And now I can really, I can see those trigger points.

Like I know when I'm going back down into a dark hole because little things like this,

you know, I'm not wanting to be social, not wanting to leave the house, not wanting to get out of bed in the morning, like just little trigger points like this. And I think, yeah, you're spot on. Like this year is a tough year for everyone. You know, there's people without jobs. There's people that this Christmas won't see families. There's people who have lost loved ones. And I think there's probably a lot of people out there that are really suffering at the moment and whether or not they realize, I think, you know, it's, yeah, it's super timely that we're talking about it. For me, when I get on a bike, it's almost like an endorphin rush. It's almost like that sense of high I used to get when I did take party drugs, getting out.

As corny as it sounds like the wind in your face or going around a corner or, you know, summiting a climb or just riding a new road, whether it's, you know, two kilometers from home or 200

kilometers from home, like, it makes me feel like a kid again. And I remember, like, as a kid,

like, I never used to worry about anything because there was nothing to ever worry about. And

the bike gives me that sense of being a child again. And I love and I think you know the people I've spoken to

that ride a bike even if they're not depressed they can still relate to those same feelings of freedom

and I think it's nice you know whether it's you know freedom physically or freedom from your

own mind I think it's yeah the bike allows us to get out and explore and offers a sense of freedom. G'day guys. You just heard from Jack Ultra Cyclist or Jack Thompson, as he prefers to be called.

I thought it was a great episode. If you haven't heard that episode, that was a little sneak peek of what we chatted about last week over at the cycling podcast.

Go across and listen to that. I really, really enjoyed

chatting with Jack because there was so many things, so many similarities in mindset that I

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