Talking Heads: Why do politicians keep lying on TV?

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Society & Culture, Politics, Government

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🗓️ 14 May 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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How do you tell if a politician is lying? Their lips are moving. That’s what the old joke would have us believe anyway. Rob Burley was a senior producer on some of the BBC’s flagship political shows so he knows what makes a good (and disastrous) political interview. Ros Taylor talks to Rob about his new book, Why Is This Lying Bastard Lying to Me?: Searching for the Truth on Political TV, to find out the tricks used by politicians to get away with their little white lies. “Paxman just had enough, he decided he wasn’t going to play by the rules .” “Robin Day revolutionised TV interviews in 1958 and it’s gone downhill since then.” “The morning after the Brexit referendum the BBC told me not to look into the 350m bus claims.” www.patreon.com/bunkercast Book Link: https://harpercollins.co.uk/products/why-is-this-lying-bastard-lying-to-me-searching-for-the-truth-on-political-tv-rob-burley?variant=40188508504142 Written and presented by Ros Taylor. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio editor: Alex Rees. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:14.4	penetrate that slick veneer and forced them to answer the damn question. But there's
1:18.6	an art to doing that and it's one that Rob Burley has learned in his many years
1:22.0	as a TV producer.
1:23.4	He's the author of a new book about political interviews.
1:26.4	Why is this lying bastard lying to me?
1:28.9	Welcome to the bunker, Rob.
1:30.1	Thank you very much.
1:31.8	You know, what struck me most for reading this book is how hard it usually is to get politicians to say anything interesting.
1:38.0	They are hardwired not to and the more senior they are, the more difficult it is to get them to say
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