All right, welcome back people of the internet to another episode of the waveform podcast.

This week I have a conversation with one of my favorite YouTube creators and a good friend

now, Mark Rober.

We talked about a whole bunch in this conversation.

We talked about being a full time YouTube creator and some of the quirks and features of

that particular job.

But also he used to work at NASA at the Jet Propulsion Lab and at Apple.

When we talk a little bit about that too and sort of the weird behind the scenes, I think

he shares a story of a little bit of the behind the scenes of Apple self-driving car

project and their ambitions there.

It's all very interesting.

Obviously, you should listen to the whole thing.

But if you should listen to anything in particular, it's how it always, for him, seems to tie

back to learning.

He's always been a lifelong learner and now he has a new product out called the Build

Box subscription from his new company called Crunch Labs.

It helps kids understand like physics concepts through hands-on experimentation with videos

that he made that walks people through everything.

It's fascinating.

It's what his videos are about.

It's what his products are about.

It's what he's about.

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