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Talking Feds

Talking Feds Now: The Barr-Berman Standoff

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

News, Government, Politics

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2020

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

It was an extraordinary 24 hours, even by the measure of this DOJ. AG Barr announced Friday evening that SDNY US Attorney Geoffrey Berman was resigning; but Berman responded saying he was doing nothing of the kind. That led to a feverish series of moves that ended with Berman’s agreeing to leave but his Deputy, a career prosecutor likely to protect ongoing investigations, in place—for now. Feds Barb McQuade, Matt Miller, and Andy Weissman join Harry for a rapid reaction to the crazy events. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to a special Talking Feds Now episode.

0:12.3

I'm Harry Littman.

0:14.3

Fasten your seatbelts.

0:15.9

It's going to be a bumpy ride.

0:18.1

Yesterday, Attorney General William Barr issued a press release saying that the U.S. Attorney

0:23.3

for the Southern District of New York, Jeffrey Berman, was resigning.

0:29.0

DOJ Alams read, resigning with a grain of salt, and inferred that Berman was being unceremoniously

0:37.3

sacked because of something to do with the investigations his office, traditionally the

0:43.1

most powerful and independent of the 94 U.S. Attorney's offices, was pursuing that came

0:50.6

too close to Trump and his circle.

0:53.4

It seemed one more disheartening instance of what John Bolton in his new book calls, quote,

0:58.5

obstruction of justice as a way of life, close quote, as investigators approached solid proof

1:04.3

of malfeasance by Trump or stone or Trump charity or Trump organization, Bill Barr

1:11.1

is ready to put the DOJ boot on the investigation's neck.

1:16.6

What nobody anticipated was Berman's comeback a few hours later in which he said, contrary

1:22.7

to Barr, he had not resigned.

1:24.9

He was in his office through the power of the court, not DOJ, and most pointedly that

1:30.6

he was sticking around to see the investigations through.

1:35.2

That instantly turned everything surreal.

1:38.8

It was a move that was equal parts cheeky and thrilling, leaving the Attorney General

1:43.9

and the most powerful U.S. Attorney in a high stakes standoff.

1:49.1

The pushback in favor of the rule of law and the continuation of the investigations involving

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