Hi everybody I'm Josh Maykowitz and we are talking dateline and our guest is Keith Morrison.

Hi. Well hello Josh. That was good. That was very good. Thank

you. Like you been working on it almost. I have been I have been took two tries but

this episode is it's pretty interesting it's it's

about a group of phenomenally amoral teens who go on this crime spray before committing murder more close to the story, you sort of can't tell whether he's observing it or

participating in it or acting as an undercover agent. So if you've not listened to

young Lords of Chaos, it is the episode right below this one on the list of podcasts, so go there

and listen to it and then come back here. Now when you come back we will be catching up

with the victim's sister, Pat Schweebi's Dunbar.

It's been 28 years since then,

and she has a lot to share with us.

So let's talk Dateline.

So this is really kind of two stories. I mean it's Jim Greenhill's story, you know reporter in what you get the feeling is kind of a you know

downhill slide. I mean he's drinking all the time. He doesn't sound like he's doing terribly well in life and

then it's also the story of these kids you know weakness of people who couldn't

stand up to somebody or people at that age, so desperate to be included that you

sort of leave behind any sense of what right and wrong is. I mean I got bullied a lot when I was little.

I get bullied a lot here at Dateline but that's a different story.

Well, for obvious reasons. Yeah, and you are usually the ringleader of that. But I did get

bullied a lot when I was a kid. I went to I went to seven elementary schools.

I was always the new kid at school.

I was very small for my age.

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