Hi, everyone. It's Blaine Alexander, and today we are talking Dateline. I am so happy to be joined by the one, the only Josh Mancowicz. Hi, Josh. Hi. Hello. How you doing? I am great. So we're talking about your episode, The Widow of Woodland Hills. If you haven't seen it, it's the episode right below this one on your Dateline podcast feed.

So go there, listen to it, or stream it on Peacock, of course, and then come right back here.

Quick recap, when Hollywood hairstylist Fabio Cimentelie was stabbed in his own backyard,

investigators wondered if it was a burglary gone wrong. What they uncovered

instead was an affair that turned deadly. For this talking Dateline, we've got an extra clip from

Josh's interview with Fabio's sister and more about how the murderer has torn this family apart.

Okay, let's talk Dateline. Let's talk Dateline.

You know, I think that this story is kind of what talking Dateline is made for because as we sit here recording, it's 3.36 p.m. Eastern Time on a Friday.

We just got the verdict two out, three hours ago?

Something like that, yeah.

This was kind of a breaking news bit for us.

And it's great when that kind of thing can happen.

When we can go on the air at 9 o'clock on a Friday night and say, this happened today.

That doesn't always happen that way.

A lot of times we do stories that, you know, were adjudicated more than a couple of years before we went on the air. But when we're covering a trial right down to the minute, it's great to be able to say, this is the latest news on this,

the actual verdict. And I think it's a testament to just the dexterity of our producing team,

of everyone who puts these shows on the air, because I mean, yes, to scramble and get that together and fill the holes that need to be filled, yeah, it takes a team. It takes an effort.

No, no. I mean, Chet Najoshi, Jessica DeVera, Michelle Madigan, the producers who worked on

as Allison O'R, the senior producer, like these are the people whose names you don't know at Dateline, the people you don't see on TV are the big stars here.

And as a result of the incredible organization of this team, we were completely ready.

Well, I love it. It's amazing to see. It's amazing to watch it. And, you know, at least from the

podcast side, be part of it for today. So let's jump into this episode, Josh. I think the first thing that if you watch Dateline, you work on Dateline, you always know, okay, they're going to look at the partner first, right? This one, you had me fooled for a minute because I'm listening to, you know, them talk about the marriage and the things she posted. And I'm like, no, this marriage is solid. So I was actually surprised when I heard about the affair. I actually did not see that coming. No, I mean, I think nobody did. You know, I have friends who lived in that part of Woodland Hills. and they knew the Semantilly family, not very

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