Hi, I'm Dennis Griffey, and I'm here with Andrea Canning and the producer of this episode, Brad Davis. This is Talking Date Line. Hi, guys. How are you? Great. Hey, Dennis. Hey, Brad. Hey. Today's episode is called The Intruder. It's a case that begins with a violent home invasion and a woman named Rachel Owens. She's clinging to life after being shot multiple times

at a friend's house in Maine. But what investigators uncovered was no random break-in. This crime

was personal, calculated. And the person responsible was someone Rachel loved and trusted

her husband Greg Owens. If you haven't listened to the episode yet, you can find it right

below this podcast or watch

it now on Peacott.

When you come back, we'll share an extra clip from Andrew's interview with Betsy Wonki,

one of the women at the center of the story who once ran an organization called The Warrior

Princess Academy, and later we'll share some more behind-the-scenes details about the episode

and answer some of your questions

from social media. And I got a little bit of a cold and I can hear my voice breaking. How are you guys?

Look, I had to go to my thesaurus to find extra words to describe this guy, Greg Owens.

Narcissist, Cad, murderous, Andrea? Who did this guy turn out to be for you?

I mean, yeah, the fact that, I mean, the whole thing was crazy.

You know, I mean, he's got another woman in another state, and he's not only planning

the murder of his wife, but he's planning the murder at his wife's friend's house.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, so it looks like they, the friends were the targets.

I mean, the whole thing was, was wild.

This story of a home invasion theory doesn't hold water for very long, does it?

Yeah, it was, it seemed like it was as targeted from the beginning.

They just didn't know exactly what the circumstances were.

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