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Talking Dateline: The Gorge

Dateline NBC

NBC News

Culture, True Crime, News, Society & Culture, Social

4.440.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Blayne Alexander sits down with Andrea Canning to discuss her latest episode, “The Gorge,” about the 2019 disappearance of Alice Ku, a private tutor from California, and her family's desperate search to find her. With the help of Andrew Watters, a civil attorney with investigative experience, Alice's siblings soon learn she had been keeping a secret: she had married a man named Harald Herchen. Harald claims he last saw his wife while on a trip to Taiwan, when he dropped her off at a train station. The family doesn’t believe him, and after retracing Alice’s steps, they become convinced Harald killed her in Taiwan’s Taroko National Park. Harald denies any wrongdoing, but after the family files a wrongful death lawsuit, a civil jury finds him liable for Alice’s death. Andrea shares a podcast-exclusive clip with attorney Watters. She also tells Blayne about getting caught in an earthquake in Taiwan, as well as the challenges of filming in the mountains of Taroko National Park, which included fleeing an aggressively hungry group of monkeys that tried to steal the team’s lunch. Plus, they answer your questions from social media. Help Dateline’s “Missing in America” win a Webby award! Vote here by April 16th: https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/shows/crime-justice Listen to the full episode of “The Gorge” on Apple: https://apple.co/4sDJXIC Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1P9KbCSYOSGHlyiHttztiG

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone, it's Blaine Alexander, and today we are talking Dateline. I am joined by

0:09.6

Andrea Canning to discuss her episode, The Gorge. Hey, Andrea. Hey, Blaine. Okay, if you haven't seen

0:14.9

this episode, you can watch it on Peacock or listen to it in the Dateline podcast feed, and then, of course,

0:19.7

come right back here.

0:26.0

Later, we'll have an extra clip from Andrea's interview with private investigator Andrew Waters about the rental car, Harold and Alice, drove that fateful day in the Taroco National Park.

0:31.1

And then later, we will answer some of your questions from social media.

0:34.2

All right, let's talk Dateline.

0:35.9

Before we get into our conversation, just give us a

0:37.9

quick recap about what this episode entails. Yeah, so this episode is, you know, every family's

0:44.2

worst nightmare where a text comes in saying, do you know where Alice is to Grace, the sister, she's

0:51.4

missed two tutoring sessions with my child. And, you know, Grace had no idea that Alice was missing.

1:00.1

Once they start looking for Alice, first of all, she's moved out of her apartment. Then they found a new apartment. There's a sign on the door. Welcome home. I love you. Well, who's this,

1:11.1

who wrote this sign? Then they find out that she's secretly gotten married to an older man,

1:16.1

who's this genius, who holds all these patents in Silicon Valley. And then they find out that

1:23.8

they had gone on a business trip to Taiwan. Her husband, Harold, had come home, but Alice had not. And that began the search for Alice. Where was she? And of course, the more they look, the more they realized she was probably no longer living. And the FBI was not able to formally really investigate Harold and arrest him, you know, on suspicion of murder.

1:46.5

There's a warrant out for his arrest in Taiwan. They want to bring him in to question him more.

1:53.0

But because this happened in Taiwan, there's no extradition with the United States.

1:58.6

The family went after Harold in a civil court, and they won.

2:02.6

The jury found him liable for the death of Alice.

2:07.4

He has not been criminally charged.

2:10.3

I think before we jump into this episode, I have to say that you had me from the very first shot.

2:16.0

I was like, this is gorgeous.

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