When I sat down with her in prison, you know, I told her, I said, Patrick, we just talked to him, and he says you're his ride or die. And she's like, oh, my baby. And I was like, oh, cringe. Okay, I'm not the only one.

Hi, everyone. I'm Lester Holdolt, and we are talking Dateline.

Today I'm here with Andrew Canning to talk about her episode's Secrets in the Ashes.

If you haven't seen it, you can watch the episode on Peacock or listen to it in the Dateline podcast feed

and then come right back here to listen to our discussion.

So to recap after a suspicious

home fire in Texas leaves a mother dead, her husband, Delbert Mills, is eventually convicted of

her murder. Investigators are left wondering if Delbert's second wife, someone called Allison

Salinas, was also involved, but she's never charged.

Allison moves to Illinois and starts over, essentially. She opens a bakery, some other

businesses, money-making schemes, if you will. But after she tries to get an ex-boyfriend to

murder the new man in her life, she is arrested and ends up in prison. In this episode,

we'll have a podcast exclusive clip of Andrea's prison interview with Delbert Mills. What he says

his biggest regret is, so stick around for that. And later, we're going to answer some of your

questions on social media. For now, let's talk Dateline. Hey, Andrea, this is quite a story.

Thanks for being here to talk about it. Yeah, good to be here with you, Lester. Yeah, I think it's

safe to say these are two very dangerous people. Whose story did you hear about first? Was it

Delbert's conviction for the fire or Allison's murder-for-hire scheme? We actually got on the story because of Allison's murder-for-hire scheme in Illinois

and then learned about this situation in Texas that happened years earlier where, you know,

she ends up marrying this killer, this man who killed his wife, Patricia Lee. So it's the more current

story that got Dateline's attention, but then we realized there was a lot more to it. Different

time, different location, but Allison is, you know, was at the center of both. Again, not

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