Hi, everybody. I'm Josh Mankiewicz, and we are talking Dateline today with Blaine Alexander. Hi.

Hello. So we're here to talk about Blaine's episode called Murder in MyNot. Now, if you haven't

seen it, it's the episode right below this one on your

Dateline podcast feed. So go there, listen to it, stream it on Peacock, or go to your DVR and watch it

because you record it every single week, which is what you ought to be doing, and then come back

here. Now, to recap, college student Anita

Knutzen was found stabbed to death in her North Dakota apartment in 2007, and it took

nearly 15 years for investigators to make an arrest in that murder. And then that turned out to be

one of the first people they spoke with at the crime scene,

which was Anita's roommate, Nicole.

Now, she maintained her innocence.

And as you saw or heard in the episode, she was acquitted after a week-long trial.

So for this talking dayline, we have an extra clip for Blaine's interview,

a really great interview I thought, with Anita's sister Anna

and how she talks about that long fight for justice for her sister,

which ultimately did not lead where the family wanted it to lead.

So let's talk to Aeline.

Let's do it.

A couple of things I loved about this episode.

One, like, it wasn't clear until pretty close to the end who police thought the guilty party was. A lot of times you have a pretty good idea earlier on. There were a lot of sort of equally rated suspects as you sort of ticked them off through the

investigation. And then, of course, this great twist in which the person that gets arrested

that everybody thinks did it, at least at that point, is acquitted. So let me, let's talk a little

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