Talking Dateline: Evil Walked Through the Door

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🗓️ 24 April 2024

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Andrea Canning interviews Josh Mankiewicz about his newest episode, “Evil Walked Through the Door.” The 1983 murders of Toronto women Erin Gilmour and Susan Tice four months apart left police stumped for nearly four decades. Finally, a breakthrough in investigative techniques led detectives to a freezing town in northern Canada in search of their killer. Josh and Andrea discuss the different ways of handling grief highlighted in the episode, and Josh plays a podcast-exclusive clip from his interview with Erin Gilmour’s brother. Josh describes his chilly journey to Moosonee, Ontario, and Andrea explains how, as a native of Canada, she no longer has a Canadian accent. Then, Josh answers viewer and listener questions about the episode. Watch Josh’s travelogue of his journey to get the story here: https://x.com/DatelineNBC/status/1781106464355938813

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0:00.0	Hi everyone it's Andrea Canning here and I am here with Josh Mankowitz and we are talking
0:09.0	Dateline.
0:10.0	Hi how are you?
0:11.6	Good all right this is a really, oh my gosh, this episode had me on the edge of my seat.
0:16.9	It's called Evil Walked Through the Door.
0:19.8	It's about the brutal murders of Aaron Gilmour and Susan Tice in Toronto in 1983.
0:25.0	Their cases went cold for 40 years until new technology led investigators to a small town in northern Ontario. If you haven't listened to the show yet, it is the episode
0:35.4	right below this one on the list of podcasts you can choose from. So go there and listen to it,
0:40.4	or if you want to watch it, you can stream it on peacock and then come back here.
0:44.0	All right, Josh, let's talk Dateline.
0:47.0	Quite a story.
0:48.0	It really was.
0:49.0	So for me, what I really found so fascinating was that 99% of the time the killer we've met
0:56.7	it's often a spouse or you know boyfriend girlfriend in this case I was this case, I was so curious
1:03.7	because I had absolutely no idea who did it.
1:06.4	So then I found myself really invested
1:09.9	in finding out who the killer was.
1:11.9	You know, when you close a cold case,
1:14.0	you frequently discover that that person
1:17.9	was someone who had been interviewed at some point.
1:21.3	Or somebody that you just missed but this wasn't that.
1:26.0	Yeah. George Sutherland's name is not in those files anywhere.
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