Hi everybody it's Josh Manchowitz and we're talking date line today with

Keith Morrison. Where's somber looking Keith Morrison? So I'm not a somber Ilooking Keith Morrison. So I'm not somber.

I'm perfectly happy.

content to be here.

I could be a hundred other places and here I am.

Oh, perhaps you could supply us with a list of those places later.

So this episode is called Down the Rabbit Hole and it is the story of the 2012 murder of

Mary Ann Murphy in her home in Humble Texas and the twists and turns and

from what I can discern roughly one jillion lies that led detectives to her killers. Now if you have not listened to the

broadcast yet it is the episode right below this one on the list of podcasts

that you just chose from so go there and listen to it or if you want to watch it on TV you can stream it on peacock and then come back here.

Now today Keith has an extra clip that he's going to play for us from the

jailhouse phone calls part of this. Oh boy that's the good part and also like

many other things in this story very hard to believe and then Keith and I are also and also going to answer some of your questions about the broadcast from social media.

So stick around for that.

So let's talk Dateline.

Okay, so let's start at the top from the beginning watching this. I was thinking man I hope

like this feels so obviously like it's going to turn out Carrie killed her mom and lied about everything else.

And I'm thinking like, how you can do that for two hours?

Because like I already suspect her in like the first 10 minutes.

You're just a suspicious guy. I am a suspicious guy.

I work for it.

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