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Talking Dateline: Deadly Swagger

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Culture, True Crime, News, Society & Culture, Social

4.440.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Lester Holt sits down with Keith Morrison to discuss his latest episode, “Deadly Swagger.” In 2021, wealthy California couple Gary Spohr and Wendy Wood were gunned down in their home on Lake Tahoe. Investigators quickly uncovered security camera video showing a masked intruder sneaking into their house on the day of the shooting, while the couple was out on the lake with one of their daughters and her children. It would take more than two years to make an arrest in the case. The accused turned out to be the couple's son-in-law, former Major League Baseball pitcher Dan Serafini. Keith tells Lester about his emotional conversation with the lead detective on the case and his probing jailhouse interview with Serafini. They also discuss how memory can shape an investigation. Plus, Dateline producer Jessica de Vera shares an eerie story about the 911 call as she joins Keith to answer your questions from social media. Have a question for Talking Dateline? DM us @DatelineNBC or leave a voicemail at (212) 413-5252 — your question could be featured in an upcoming episode. Listen to the full episode of “Deadly Swagger” on Apple: https://apple.co/41JgWAf Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1VVmzbVgphWhmvihBSczSp

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0:00.0

Hi, everybody. I'm Lester Holt and welcome to Talking Dateline. Today I'm joined by Keith Morrison to talk about his episode, Deadly Swagger. This is a case. It starts with a brutal shooting inside a Lake Tahoe home and quickly become something much more complicated.

0:21.5

If you haven't watched the episode, I invite you to do so. Go over to the Dateline podcast

0:26.1

feed or on Peacock. You can catch it streaming. Then come back over with us and listen to the

0:32.5

discussion that follows. When you come back, we'll have much more of Keith's interview with

0:36.8

former Major League Baseball player and now convicted killer, Dan Serafini. And later, we'll be

0:42.4

joined by the producer of this episode to answer some of your questions about social media.

0:47.1

Keith, it's great to have you here.

0:49.0

It's good to be here. Thank you, Lister. Deadly swagger, if I may just to go along on that for a minute,

0:57.0

that's an inspired title. You know, they don't tell us what the titles are going to be until just

1:01.0

a few days before here, and we don't think of them. We have a brilliant person named Susan

1:06.1

Null who comes up with most of these things. But deadly swagger, I wouldn't have thought of that.

1:12.7

Well, you know, it becomes relevant in the first few minutes of this episode.

1:17.0

It does.

1:17.4

Oh, that's the deadly swagger.

1:18.8

Got it.

1:19.4

There you go.

1:20.4

Give us the lowdown.

1:21.9

First of all, the setting for this grabs you right away, the gorgeous pictures of Lake Tah.

1:26.6

You've never been there it is one of

1:28.3

the great beauties beautiful natural spots in the world but but tell us about working there and

1:33.6

this story well lake tahoe is a place which has some really lovely and very expensive homes

1:40.9

in in some areas of the around the lake.

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