The This week we are joined once again after years now there the show's been going for a while. We are joined once again by the

amazing Carl Abramson and let me tell you and here's how we do the intro is now, Cole. I describe the guest and then if I've missed something or if I've got something wrong, then the guest is actually's this right so I'm gonna I'm gonna start with

Carl is a polymath he is a musician he is a filmmaker he is an author he is a poet he is he is a author, a poet, he is a creative extravaganza, and he joins us today to talk about this fascinating

and for me quite nostalgic book, I'm just going to embigging the screen

the latest Anton the Vay and the Church of Satan in funnel wisdom from the devil's den. Now that was the introduction there.

Carl, what else should I add?

What should I put in?

I always get stressed from people talk about me that way.

But I don't know.

I think the main thing is that over these past few years,

you know, regardless if it has to do with the pandemic or

isolation or us moving whatever, it's just that I write more and more and more.

And of course that's my happy zone, it's my pleasure zone and my, where I feel most fulfilled in terms of the creative output.

So I find that things are changing a little bit in my life that you know I used to not have a like a compulsive attitude towards music but I I made a lot of music and you know I wanted to return to that space because it's sort of irrational and emotionally

fulfilling whereas writing of course is more like you know rational intellectual and this thing so I think I can

foresee that writing is actually taking more and more place and space in my life and I'm all for it but I don't think I will ever be able to leave the other ones that photography and feelmaking and as you say music because it's not the same it's very different but it has that kind of

similar thing where you know where the hell does this come from I have no idea and I don't think I am going to even try to answer where it comes from

but there's different things that pop up and they need the different treatment in a way.

Yeah. So would you say you maybe a few years ago might have been a filmmaker writer now maybe you're a writer, filmmaker.

Yeah, possibly.

I mean, there are also external things that decide these things because, well, as everyone knows, we're not only who we are,

we're also, to great example of other people

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