Hi everyone and welcome to the mom hour. I am Megan Francis and today we're

doing something a little different. As we've seen this week in the aftermath of the

George Floyd killings, there is so much racial injustice in the world.

And for white people, it's not always easy to know how to address it

or what to do about it.

Unfortunately, I think we often wind up stuck in a loop of defensiveness

and discomfort, and then we just shut down rather than listening to the people who have the most skin in the game

literally their skin black people themselves. So today we're featuring conversations I had with my niece

Cessley and my nephew Mario about their experiences as young black people in

today's world. So you might be thinking, well why are your niece and

nephew? Why not bring on an author or an expert here's our thinking

while books and documentaries and social media can be a great starting point and a place to learn

we know that in order to really change the world these conversations need to be happening in real life

with the real people in our lives. Those real authentic in-person conversations with

people we love are where empathy start and also where people feel free to be the most honest and raw and that's really

important. So what you're listening to is literally a conversation between an

aunt and her niece and an aunt and her nephew and because I've talked about

both Cecily and Mario on the

show over the years, maybe they felt a little bit like family to you too. I hope

that's even more true after you hear their words. Before I jump in with Cessley's

interview, I want to acknowledge there might be times that these conversations make you feel uncomfortable

They're definitely more political and raw than most of our content though we did still keep the interviews PG rated

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