Talk Your Book: Investing in Private Credit ETFs and All-Time Highs

Animal Spirits Podcast

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🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Wes Crill, Senior Client Solutions Director & VP at Dimensional Fund Advisors to explore strategies for investing at all-time highs. Then, at 18:18, they are joined by Tony Kelly, Co-Founder of BondBloxx ETFs to discuss investing in CLOs, differences between CLOs and high yield, and how CLOs fit in the private credit asset class. Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠A Wealth of Common Sense⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Michael Batnick’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Irrelevant Investor⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Feel free to shoot us an email at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with any feedback, questions, recommendations, or ideas for future topics of conversation. Check out the latest in financial blogger fashion at The Compound shop: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://idontshop.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management. See our disclosures here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ritholtzwealth.com/podcast-youtube-disclosures/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ritholtz Wealth Management⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Today's Animal Spirits Talk Your Book is brought to you by Dimensional Fund Advisors.
0:04.2	Go to Dimensional.com to learn more about all of DFA's fund offerings.
0:08.8	Today's talk your book is also brought to by bondblocks.
0:10.9	Go to bondblockset.com to learn more about the bondblocks,
0:13.8	private credit, CLO, ETF, ticker PCMM.
0:16.6	That's bondblocksetf.com.
0:21.0	Welcome to Animal Spirits, a show about markets, life, and investing.
0:25.3	Join Michael Batnik and Ben Carlson as they talk about what they're reading, writing, and
0:29.5	watching.
0:30.4	All opinions expressed by Michael and Ben are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the
0:34.7	opinion of Ridholt's wealth management.
0:36.8	This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be the opinion of Ridholt's wealth management. This podcast is for
0:37.8	informational purposes only and should not be relied upon for any investment decisions.
0:42.5	Clients of Ridholt's wealth management may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this
0:46.6	podcast. Welcome to Animal Spirits with Michael and Ben. We have a two for today.
0:54.4	We had two talk your books and one and it's free, right?
0:58.4	Two for the price of nothing.
0:59.7	We talked to Wes Krill, who is a senior client solutions director and VP at Dimential Fund Advisors, about everything from small caps to all-time highs to what else.
1:10.2	They get some really good points on the IPO stuff for small caps, correct?
1:13.4	Tons of good stuff.
1:14.6	Yeah.
1:14.9	I think today's episode is it's an interesting pairing.
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